[Dixielandjazz] Fw: NEED A HOSPITAL ?
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On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:11 PM, Richard Hudak <rch1213 at yahoo.com>
Letter from a senior gentleman in Mesa, Arizona:
Dear Family, Friends, Neighbors, and former Classmates,
I just found myself in the middle of a medical situation that made it very
clear that "the Affordable Care Act" is neither affordable, nor do they
I'll go back about seven years ago to a fairly radical prostate
surgery that I underwent.
The Urologist who performed the surgery was very concerned that it was
cancer, though I wasn't told this until the lab report revealed it was
Since that procedure, I have experienced numerous urinary tract
Since I had never had a "UTI" prior to the prostate surgery, I assumed
it is one of the side effects from surgery, an assumption since confirmed
my Family Doctor.
The weekend of March 8-9, I was experiencing all the symptoms of another
By Monday afternoon the infection had hit with full force.
that all I needed was an antibiotic, I went to an Urgent Care Center in
Mesa, AZ, to provide a specimen a requirement for getting the
After waiting 45 minutes to see the Doctor, I started getting very
nauseous and light headed. I went to the Receptionist to ask where the
bathroom was, as I felt that I was going to throw up. I was told that I
would have to wait for the Doctor because I would have to leave a specimen
and they didn't want me in the bathroom without first seeing him.
That was when the lights went out. My next awareness was that of finding
myself on the floor (in the waiting room) having violent dry heaves, and
very confused. At this point, I tried to stand up but couldn't make it,
they made it very clear they weren't going to let me get up until the
ambulance got there. By the way, when you're waiting to see the
Doctor and you pass out, you get very prompt attention.
Now, "the rest of the story", and the reason for sending this to so many
I was taken to the nearest hospital, to emergency. Once there, I was
transported to an emergency examination room. Once I had removed my
and donned one of those lovely hospital gowns, I finally got to see a
Doctor. I asked "what is going on? I'm just having a UTI. Just get me
proper medication and let me go home." He told me that my symptoms
presented the possibility of sepsis, a potentially deadly migration of
toxins, and that they needed to run several tests to determine how far the
infection had migrated.
For the next 3 hours I was subjected to several tests, blood
EKG's, and demands for specimens. At about 7:30 the nurse came back to my
room to inform me that one of the tests takes
1- 2 days to complete. I asked if they (the results) could be emailed, at
which point she informed me that I wouldn't need them emailed because I
wasn't going anywhere. I did tell her I wanted to see the doctor because I
had no intention of staying overnight.
Now, this is what I want each of you to understand. Please read these
next sentences carefully.
The doctor finally came in to inform me that he was going to admit me. I
said, "Are you admitting me for treatment or for observation?"
He told me that I would be admitted for observation. I said, "Doctor,
correct me if I'm wrong, but if you admit me for observation, my Medicare
will not pay anything. This due to the Affordable Care Act."
He said,"That's right, it won't."
I grabbed my bag of clothing and said, "Then I'm going home."
He said you're really too sick to be going home, but I understand your
position. This health program is going to hit seniors especially hard.
The doctor then left the room and I started getting dressed. I was just
getting ready to put my shoes on when another doctor (the closer) came
the room. He saw me dressed and said, "Where do you think you are
going?" I simply said "I'm going home." To which he replied, quite
vociferously, "No you aren't." I said, "Doc, you and I both know that
the "Affordable Care Act" anyone on Medicare who is admitted to a hospital
for observation will be responsible for the bill. Medicare won't pay a
cent." At which point he nodded in affirmation. I said, "You
either admit me for a specific treatment or you won't admit me." Realizing
he wasn't going to win this one, he said he would prepare my release
A few minutes later, the discharge nurse came to my room to have
sign the necessary papers, relieving them from any responsibility. I told
her I wasn't trying to be obstinate, but I wasn't going to be burdened
the full (financial) responsibility for my hospital stay.
After making sure the door was closed, she said, "I don't blame you at
I would do the same thing." She went on to say, "You wouldn't
believe the people who elect to leave for the same reasons, people who are
deathly sick, people who have to be wheeled out on a gurney." She further
said, "The 'Affordable Care Act' is going to be a disaster for seniors.
if you are in this country illegally, and have no coverage, you will be
covered in full."
This is not internet hype folks, this is real. I just experienced it
Moving right along, this gets worse.
Today I went to a (required) follow up appointment with my Arizona Family
Practitioner. Since my white count was pretty high, the follow-up was
important. During the visit, I shared the experience at emergency, and
I had refused to be admitted. His response was "I don't blame you at all,
would have done the same thing." He went on to say that the colonoscopy
other procedures are probably going to be dropped from coverage for those
I told him that I had heard that the "Affordable Care Act" would no longer
pay for cancer treatment for those 76 and older, is that true? His
understanding is that it is true. The more I hear, and experience the
Affordable Care Act, the more I'm beginning to see that we seniors are
nothing more than an inconvenience, and the sooner they can get rid of us
the better off they'll be.
We can have an impact on this debacle by letting everyone in Congress know
that their responsibility is to the constituents, not the president and
the lobbyists. We need to let them ALL know that they are in office to
and to look after the BEST INTERESTS of "we the people," their employers,
and not to become self serving bureaucrats who serve only out of greed.
if they don't seem to understand this simple logic, we'll fire them.
Demand your hospital admission is for TREATMENT and NOT for OBSERVATION!
SEND THIS TO EVERY SENIOR AND ALL MILITARY (ACTIVE OR VET) AND LET
THEM KNOW THIS IS HOW OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON CAPITOL HILL TREAT THOSE
RISK IT ALL SO THEY CAN SIT UP THERE AND ENJOY ALL THE BENEFITS
THEY EXEMPT FROM THE REST OF US.
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