[Dixielandjazz] Tram

Steve Voce stevevoce at virginmedia.com
Sat Apr 25 12:32:28 PDT 2015


I couldn't agree more about the multi-gifted Rollini and particularly the often under-rated Don Murray.

Steve Voce

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> On 25 Apr 2015, at 20:22, Charles Suhor <csuhor at zebra.net> wrote:
> 
> As a young listener I loved Bix and thought (still do) that some of his sidemen were under-rated (Rollini, esp.; also Rank and Murray). I had found Tram's sax at to be whiney--he was "dated," Bix was timeless. Over the years I heard it said that Lester Young was influenced by Tram, and when I went back to listen again I came to see his fluid, laid-back conception to be a perfect fit with Bix's, though a far cry from the latter's invention. Both have been rightly called the first "cool jazz" musicians. The next up in that tradition, in my view, were Lester and Fazola then the likes of Miles and Konitz. It's so wonderful that jazz has many avenues of expression. Lucky us.
> 
> Charlie 
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Steve Voce wrote:
>> 
>> Lester was impressed by the sound and tonal quality of what Trumbauer played. 
>> I'm sure that you're not suggesting that he (Trumbauer) was in the same class as Bix or Eddie Lang. He was, throughout his career, a good technician but a minor jazz creator.
>> (Tram owned his own aircraft, and flying was his hobby).
>> 
>> Steve Voce
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On 25 Apr 2015, at 17:16, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> 
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>>>> On 25 April 2015 at 18:30, Steve Voce <stevevoce at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>> You're not missing much. Trambauer was never a great jazz improviser.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps.  But he was in the Goldkette band  when it beat Henderson's, and Lester Young always carried "Singing the Blues" for Tram's solo thereon.  Bix was not the only oyster in the Trumbaure Orchestra stew, albeir the best.  Improviser or not, he was not a slouch!  And the 1937/38 band sounds very good.
>>> As to the Capitols, they area hardly the best of the bunch.
>>> 
>>>> He was better as an aircraft pilot.
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't know.
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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