[Dixielandjazz] Free Form Music

Charles Suhor csuhor at zebra.net
Sun Oct 19 22:18:34 PDT 2014


I had never heard Beaver and Krause, David, so I was glad to "discover" them 40 or so years late. Thanks. I listened to several of their early 70s tracks. I wasn't so much interested in categorizing their music as enjoying it. It seems more composed than improvised, but either way, it's quite lovely.  I wasn't so much interested in categorizing their music as enjoying it. Wikipedia says that many they introduced the moog synthesizer to many artists. A few years prior, Wendy (then Walter) Carlos's "Hooked on Bach" moog LP came out, and it knocked my socks off. Anecdote: I had been a Bach devotee ever since I heard Glen Gould play the Goldberg Variations. I was driving home from Loyola down Magazine St. in 1955 when some tracks from the LP were played on the local PBS station. Man, I literally had to pull over to the curb to catch my breath. I almost levitate when I hear Bach--to me, that's a place where the aesthetic and the spiritual rise together. In jazz, I've felt that with many recordings--Louis' West End Blues, Hotter Than That, & others; Bird's Lover Man, Warming Up a Riff, & others; lots of Bix, Konitz, early Miles, Bille, and Dinah.... As we've seen during these exchanges, one person's nirvana is another person's hell realm, but below is a link to one of my favorites--a Konits/Billy Bauer (guitar) duet on "Indian Summer." As my grandkids would write, OMG!

Charlie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBytvg0sELc 



On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:05 PM, domitype . wrote:

> Paul, have you ever heard this? http://youtu.be/bMoQIr_ngAs  It is not
> exactly "Free Jazz" as most understand the term, but it is a lot "looser"
> than many other examples of music I have heard - and it jumps centuries of
> musical styles - Gerry Mulligan on the Celestial Musician LP by Paul Beaver
> & Bernard Krause.
> 
> David Richoux
> 
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Paul Kurtz Jr <kurtzph at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Charlie, I’ve held off commenting on this topic because of the many, many
>> who don’t like free-form jazz and modern stuff in general. I can’t say
>> there’s a ton of it I like, but there’s one part of the baby I don’t want
>> to throw out with the bath water.
>> 
>> When I play for anybody including as recently as playing for a church
>> service this morning, I try and put different chord structures and flows in
>> there. I also put different scales in there, as long as they transition
>> well to where I’m going. My material can’t be free-form because I’m working
>> within an existing melody and chord structure. But, what I do with that is
>> and can be helped by some of the things I listen to in some of the freer
>> jazz licks. I can better do what I need to do with more variety. Augmented
>> and diminished chords that can transition to different parts of a song but
>> aren’t always used are good things to hear and know. So, I just use these
>> as a stretching exercise or stretching exercises for me.
>> 
>> Paul Kurtz Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
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