[Dixielandjazz] Composers

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The Mudcat forum has a different story on "50 Miles of Elbow Room" -
http://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=2500071

They tend to be accurate, but it is like a specialized Wiki sometimes...

Dave Richoux

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
wrote:

> > I jave just heard  "50 miles of elbow room" and "Evolution mama" by the
> Turk Murphy  band, compeser credits stating "traditiona."
> > Is this true?  The former is a folk song, so it might be, but the second
> doesn't sound that way.
>
> Dear Marek,
> This one was discussed on the DJML about ten years ago.
> But I don't recall whether it was resolved at that time.
> I don't think so.
> However, here is what I have regarding the two songs.
> (I too have that Turk Murphy concert LP.)
>
> "Fifty Miles of Elbow Room" (F. W McGee)
> Recorded by Rev, F. W McGee for Victor 23401 on 16 July 1930 with unk.
> t/p/g.
> (Copyrighted on Sept 7, 1933)
>    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDc-seffbYo
>
> "Evolution Mama" (Dasher - Heywood)
> Recorded by Doc Dasher, vocal; with Eddie Heywood, piano for Columbia
> 14106 on 30 September 1925.
> (Copyrighted on Apr. 14 1926)
> I have this on CD and it is the same tune with different lyrics, apart
> from the line "Don’t you make a monkey out of me."
>
> "Evolution Mama" was also recorded by Carl 'Deacon' Moore & His Orchestra
> for Decca 2051 on 9 August 1938 with composer credit to (Terry Shand).
> The pianist who recorded with Wingy Manone, Jack Teagarden and composed "I
> Double Dare You", among others.
> (I could not find a copyright for this one under his name. Maybe he was
> its arranger for the Decca session.)
> I have an mp3 copy of this version. And an image of the Decca label.
> The lyrics used by Turk are a rough compilation of those sung by Carl
> Moore including "I've got a knife, and I've got a gun. I'm gonna cut you if
> you stand still, and shoot you if you run. Evolution Mama, don't you make a
> monkey out of me!"
>
> My friend and listmate Dick Baker (the Stomp Off Tunes bloke) would
> probably not approve, but the credit for the Turk Murphy rendition should
> probably be:
> (Doc Dasher - Eddie Heywood - Carl Moore - Terry Shand).
> Very kind regards,
> Bill.
>
>
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