[Dixielandjazz] LP or CD?

Stan Brager sbrager at verizon.net
Wed Dec 31 14:26:18 PST 2014


In 2001, Sunbeam issued the complete Beiderbecke recordings on a set called "Bix Restored". The remastering was done by John R. T. Davies and Michael Kieffer. The set consists of 4 volumes and each volume has 3 CDs. It also includes some recordings which have been claimed to feature Bix but the cornetist was someone else. What can I say except that the series is marvelous. Have you listened to any of these CDs?

Thanks and best wishes for the coming year.

Stan Brager 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marek Boym [mailto:marekboym at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:11 PM
To: Robert Ringwald
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] LP or CD?

Clean vs. quality, this (to paraphrase the bard of Stratton) is the question.
A mint LP makes no noise and plays as clean as a CD.  So far, I've heard very few CDs remasterd from analogue recordings that come anywhere close to the LP quality, and those were not from the majors.  The best ever were the Australian "Bill Armstrong Collection."  As I have already mentioned, I still have to hear a Bix Beiderbecke CD which gets the special "like a girl saying yes" sound.  The ideas, the technique, are there, but on CD Bix sounds just another cornet player, whereas on vinyl (and even tape) he sounds different from anybody else, Andy Secrest being the closest.
I fully realize that many people do not hear the difference in sound, not even between high quality mp3 and an LP.  Perhaps they are the lucky ones - who knows?  An Israeli popular music expert tried to explan the diference, but eventually said that, although it does not register on gauges, the brain somehow discerns.  Not very scientific, but probably very true.

On 30 December 2014 at 17:44, Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com> wrote:

> I agree with Jim. I prefer the clean sound of a CD.
> I have mentioned this before but since it is in context with this 
> discussion, I’ll mention it again.
> Maybe 15 years ago my older daughter who had worked in the 
> entertainment biz in LA was sent various recordings to evaluate.
> I’ll never forget the time she got a CD made by a south American band 
> that was part Latin and part Jazz.
> The band had dubbed in the noise of a LP. When the CD started, you 
> could hear the turntable rumble, the tone arm moving and setting down 
> on the LP and then the turntable hiss and occasional clicks and pops of a LP.
> I couldn’t believe that anyone in their right mind would take a clean 
> recording and then add in all that noise.
> -Bob Ringwald
> Bob Ringwald Solo Piano, duo, Trio, Quartet Fulton Street Jazz Band 
> 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio station K 6 Y B V
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