[Dixielandjazz] FW: Dogfight? Indeed!!

[Shaw, Tim]

Well put Marek
Some things are entertaining live the first few times. Recorded and repeated they can become annoying or irritating. I bet it became irritating for the firehouse chaps!

I could do without any FH5+2 recordings. I'd give a millions of recordings in that style (and there are millions!) in exchange for a single recording of "tears' by the Oliver CJB or cakewalking babies by Clarence Williams' blue 5, or something in their league.
Cheers
tim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marek Boym [mailto:marekboym at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 31 May, 2012 10:31 PM
To: Shaw, Tim; jim at kashprod.com
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] FW: Dogfight? Indeed!!

I am one of those who complain about "too much entertainment."  The
FH5+2 was a good band, but often forwent music for clowning (ever
heard their "Kissing Blues," with a million kisses on record?). Even
in the example on hand (or shoud I have written "on ear?"), there is
unnecessary screaming.  That might be entertaining live, but is boring
at first, and then disturbing on record.
I have two 10" Lps - pretty good.  But the hour-long Music for
Pleasure reissue contains a fair number of tracks that render it
annoying; most unfortunate, as some of the others are wonderful.
Perhaps that's why non-American listmates like the band less than
Americans - we have not seen the Firemen in person, and judge solely
based on their musc, not nostalgia.
Cheers

On 31 May 2012 12:55, Shaw, Tim <Tim.Shaw at mh.org.au> wrote:
>
> They (FH5+2) were guilty of being "too entertaining", in some people's estimation.
> I think they were continuing the tradition of California being the warm, sunny,get- rich-quick, good time place it was at the turn of the (20th) century.
> - When there was neither reason nor demand for anything too bluesy or profound.
> I think they did a pretty good job, considering none was a professional musician.
> Lots of people bag Spike Jones city Slickers  for being corny and superficial too, but not many musos could match their musical skills.
> cheers
> tim
>
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> Sent: 31 May 2012 18:12
> To: Shaw, Tim
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> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] FW:  Dogfight?  Indeed!!
>
> Rick wrote:
> Here's a great dogfight example.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usxcoAV6kWY&feature=related
>
> .....without having mentioned that it was the Firehouse Five + 2.  Isn't it
> amazing how much flack these guys have drawn on djml over the years (too
> showy, funny hats, etc.)?  Just listen to that afterbeat!  How can you argue
> with that swing?
>
> Jim (love the FH5+2) Kash
>
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