[Dixielandjazz] Fwd: Phillip Larkin on Coltrane
Steve Voce
stevevoce at virginmedia.com
Fri Mar 16 07:37:23 PDT 2012
These are from 'The Collected Letters Of Philip Larkin'. He didn't like
Miles, did he?
Steve Voce
> To Steve Voce- 3 September 1985
>
> The University of Hull,
> The Brynmor Jones Library
>
> Dear Steve,
> Many thanks for your letter of 14th August and the tapes. You really
> mustn't think of me as someone in your league, jazzwise (I'm sure you
> don't); when back in i96o or whenever it was Sir Colin Coote of the
> Daily Telegraph decreed that the paper should carry a jazz feature,
> one of the music staff' knew me as a jazz enthusiast and put my name
> forward. Of course the job should have gone to somebody of greater
> competence, such as yourself! I read your column with interest and
> amusement, and take a certain unregenerate pleasure in the protests
> you sometimes evoke. I also admire your stamina in being able to
> sustain occasions like the Nice Festival. You seem to be more
> charitable about Miles Davis than some other reporters - I thought I
> saw the word `endured' used more than once by people who had listened
> to him.
> The Teagarden interview was absorbing, though I found him hard to hear
> sometimes; it's tantalising how these chaps will go on about matters
> of limited interest (to me, at any rate), instead of describing every
> minute they spent with Bix or Pee Wee. My interest in Wingy Manone is
> limited, though I never knew he lost his arm so early. Much of the
> early life is in Smith and Guttridge.4 Once again, I am forced to
> wonder, WAS PECK KELLEY ANY GOOD? I know there has been a recording
> issued posthumously, but I haven't heard it, and I can't help thinking
> that I should have if it had been worth hearing (via the BBC, for
> instance). As for the Dorsey stories, they simply reinforce my
> impression that Tommy Dorsey was perhaps the most disagreeable jazz
> musician ever to draw breath; and Jimmy doesn't sound much better. And
> yet musicians stayed with him! A great puzzle.
> And finally, of course, the magic of Buck Clayton's" final comment. It
> was wonderful to have the autograph of a player I have admired since I
> was a schoolboy in the Thirties, and I do thank you deeply for
> engineering it. I hope Buck is in reasonable health: his memories
> would be worth recording.
Again, with many thanks and all good wishes,
Yours sincerely,
Phillip
> To Steve Voce-15 September 1985
> 105 Newland Park, Hull Hu 5 ZDT
> Dear Steve,
> I am sorry to have delayed so long in replying to your letter and
> acknowledging your generous consignment of tapes (by the way, do you
> want them back? I'm unused to such largesse). The reason for this is
> that my hifi has gone on the blink & I haven't been able to play them.
> Your letter was full of good stuff. Miles & C.B.S. - well,
> interesting, and reminiscent of Louis, Fats & Billie (to some extent)
> being told to `play the tune', or suffering if they didn't, but I've
> never thought Miles's `rock' very like what it's supposed to be - I
> mean, rock is exciting on a low level, isn't it? M. is never exciting
> on any level. But what a comment on the music biz! The Clayton
> biography is a tempting prospect. I'm alarmed at your hints. I
> imagined B.C. as a gentlemanly character not in the best of health,
> likely to retire at io p.m. with a hot milk. The Holiday stories are
> awful. Really, I can't imagine the drug scene. My generation are
> drinkers and smokers; I wouldn't stick a needle into myself for a
> hatful of golden guineas.
> My convalescence continues. I suppose I am getting better. However, I
> discern no eagerness for return to work, wch I shall have to do before
> long. Getting up, dressing & pottering about seems to fill the day
> quite satisfactorily, although it's accompanied by a subdued unease at
> the thought that I've become an old man. Sixty-three ... can't believe
> it. What have I done to be sixty-three? It isn't fair.
> Yes. US correspondents can be tiresome. I have one who has sort of
> shouldered himself into my life by sending tapes (the last was of some
> Walter piano rolls recreated on a pipe organ in Bolton, the most
> dismal sound I've ever heard) & is now threatening to come at
> Christmas. Shall have to give him the chop. The Hermit of Hull and all
> that. Of your needling of lefties, well, I'm sorry, but I suppose the
> editor's decision is final, as they say. But things seem to have swung
> so far in that direction I can't believe a little counterpoint is
> unjustified. There will be a swing back - not in our lifetime; I only
> hope it doesn't involve too much suffering. Keep your head down.I look
> forward to hearing the Russells. Up to his serious illness, or when he
> `went modern', I find him completely original and exciting. Even his
> squeaks seem premeditated. He was great from about r93o-1945: I
> remember after the war buying Condon's `Aunt Hagar' with Wild Bill and
> rejoicing that everything had survived. His range was so wide: light
> dancing solos with no distortion matched by others that were like
> wading through musical mud. And a great musical unexpectedness: notes
> you didn't expect but wch are quite right, at least from him.
> Your stories about Bud F.' are very funny. I remember Kingsley Amis's
> astonishment on finding B.F. had read Lucky Jim. I wonder if Bud was
> equally surprised at K.'s knowing `The Eel' etc. Somehow I doubt it.
> Bud sounds like the Geoff Boycott' of jazz. By the way, I see that in
> his latest edition Rust has adopted the claim (made by Banks, I think)
> that Krupa was on one of those sessions. When my hifi returns I shall
> listen narrowly.
> Supper & `Lady Windermere's Fan' await me. Again, many thanks. Yours
> sincerely Philip
On 16/03/2012 01:57, Joe Carbery wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Carbery<joe.carbery at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:53 PM
> Subject: Phillip Larkin on Coltrane
> To: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List<Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>
>
> English poet and writer on jazz Phillip Larkin had this to say about John
> Coltrane:
> "Well, I can't imagine how anyone can listen to a Coltrane record for
> pleasure.
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