[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 120, Issue Gino

[Tim Laughlin]

On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:00 PM, dixielandjazz-request at ml.islandnet.com ppmwrote:

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>   1. Campbell Burnap (Alan Roy)
>   2. Re: Campbell Burnap reply (Alan Roy)
>   3. Jazz Newsflash from STJS (Kristy Reed)
>   4. Re: LA Vintage Revival Bands (Rick Campbell)
>   5. Re: LA Vintage Revival Bands (Marek Boym)
>   6. Old, but new! (Jim Kashishian)
>   7. Re: Old, but new! (Marek Boym)
>   8. FW:  Old, but new! (Jim Kashishian)
>   9. Re: [Dixieland jazz]  Old, but new! (Jim Allen)
>  10. Diana Krall on "A Prairie Home Companion" (Robert Ringwald)
>  11. Re: Longhorn Band and dixieland in Austin (Augustine Daniel)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:14:26 +1300
> From: Alan Roy <a.roy at xtra.co.nz>
> To: gerard.bielderman at telfort.nl
> Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Campbell Burnap
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> Hi Gerald
> 
> Do you know that [to my knowledge] Cambell's first recording [a 7-inch EP] was made here in Wellington, NZ?
> 
> As a teenager, he took up trombone and played with the Delta Jazz Band, that included a fine local clarinetist, Jack Steele, and an ebullient UK import, Derek Green, on piano. In his early 20s, he moved to Australia, and there he honed his skills on the trombone.
> 
> Sadly missed.
> 
> Alan
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:31:58 +1300
> From: Alan Roy <a.roy at xtra.co.nz>
> To: "Gerard Bielderman" <gerard.bielderman at telfort.nl>
> Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Campbell Burnap reply
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> Yes indeed Gerard, it was the Omega Jazz Band. I have a vague idea [and with my aging mind, most of my memories are pretty vague!] that the band started life as the Delta JB, but it definitely was the Omega JB when Campbell recorded with it.
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 4/12/2012, at 8:31 AM, Gerard Bielderman wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alan,
>> 
>> The information I have lists a His Master's Voice  EP from circa 1961 by the Omega Jazz Band with the musicians you mention. So not the Delta Jazz Band.
>> But thanks for mentioning this item!
>> Regards,
>> Gerard
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Roy" <a.roy at xtra.co.nz>
>> To: <gerard.bielderman at telfort.nl>
>> Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:14 PM
>> Subject: Campbell Burnap
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Gerald
>> 
>> Do you know that [to my knowledge] Cambell's first recording [a 7-inch EP] was made here in Wellington, NZ?
>> 
>> As a teenager, he took up trombone and played with the Delta Jazz Band, that included a fine local clarinetist, Jack Steele, and an ebullient UK import, Derek Green, on piano. In his early 20s, he moved to Australia, and there he honed his skills on the trombone.
>> 
>> Sadly missed.
>> 
>> Alan 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:36:02 -0800
> From: Kristy Reed <saxyreed at hotmail.com>
> To: Kristy Reed <saxyreed at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Newsflash from STJS
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> Hope to see you at our upcoming events!
> 
> Fans of the fiery fiddle and electrifying energy of TOM RIGNEY & FLAMBEAU should check out this video from the Closing Ceremony of the 2011 Sac. Jazz Fest. when he was Emperor:  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqa9Ap3tDo
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> 
> -- TOM RIGNEY & FLAMBEAU on Sun., Dec. 9 at Dante Club in Sac.  
>    Noon to 5 pm, with Rigney sets at 2pm and 4pm - full dance floor
>    Note slight increase in Jazz Sunday admission for this band:
>    $10 STJS members / $15 non-members  More info
> 
> 
> -- 15th annual STJS "RENT PARTY" with 15 bands on Sun., Jan. 13 at Dante Club
>    $8 STJS members / $12 non-members   List of bands
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> 
> -- 7th annual CRAB FEED fundraiser for STJS
>    SAT., Jan. 26, 5:30pm-10:00pm   More info
> 
> ALSO:
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> "EARLY BIRD DISCOUNT" All-Events badges now on sale for the
>  2013 Sac. Music Festival!  STJS members pay only $85 for 4 days of music!
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> STJS MEMBERS: 
> If you have not been receiving the "AATJ" newsletter, please contact STJS.
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> For requesting printed/mailed copies: call 916-444-2004
> To receive by e-mail: editor at sacjazz.org
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> Let the good times roll!
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> STJS website  http://sacjazz.org  
> The Dante Club: 2330 Fair Oaks Blvd., Sacramento, CA 95825
> 
> Sponsor a band for a Monthly Concert or the Sacramento Music Festival in May!!  Your donations and support are greatly appreciated.  Call 916-444-2004 to sponsor a group at the festival.  Contact Kristy Reed at saxyreed at hotmail.com to discuss a concert request!  And if you're not yet a member of STJS, join now!
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:46:23 -0800
> From: Rick Campbell <ricksax at comcast.net>
> To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] LA Vintage Revival Bands
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> I recall talking a few years back with the late piano player and leader Don Gibson (Sons of Bix, Al Capone Memorial Jazz Band) after he retired to Portland.
> 
> He said, ?You know what's the difference between dixieland music fans in 1925 and today? When today's older crowds come to a jazz festival, they expect to hear old music, played in the same old way. In 1925, if you went to hear Louis Armstrong, you wanted to hear new music; music composed yesterday, and performed in a way to surprise and delight you."
> 
> So let's hope that the kids in LA are doing just that.
> 
> Personally, I enjoyed the Vaud and Villans video. I liked the girls dancing in bustieres, but I can't remember exactly why any more....
> 
> Rick Campbell
> Milneburg Social Aid and Pleasure Society Jazz Band
> Portland, Oregon USA
> 503-701-7356
> ricksax at comcast.net
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:36:00 +0200
> From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
> To: Rick Campbell <ricksax at comcast.net>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] LA Vintage Revival Bands
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> Yep!
> Most unfortunate, isn't it?
> I remember complimenting the leader of the British Blue Magnolia Jazz
> Band many years ago on his repertoire , as it hardly included a
> warhorse.
> "If I had to play the Dixieland standards, I'd die of boredom" (or
> something to that effect) was his reply.  Still, the trad audience
> wants to hear all the ridden-to-death warhorses.
> I remembered asking a participant in the Mississippi RAg Forum whether
> it had occurred to him that the musicians might be bored playing Royal
> GArden Blues or ST. James' Infirmary for umpteen times.  His reply was
> that if so, they shouldn't play traditional jazz.
> Myself, I try to buy records with as few warhorses as possible.  In
> the twenties, thirties and forties, the traditional repertoire was
> almost endless!  But now, how many times have you heard "Delirium" or
> "Feeling No Pain," for example, other than in the "tribute to..."
> context?  And yes, stylistic changes as well.  Lu Watters and his
> cohorts invented their own style while "reviving" jazz.  And, unlike
> some traditionalists, I was extremely happy when I read about a band
> influenced by Chris Barber.  Again, traditional, but with his own
> style.  "British trad" was banjo-ridden, and often, especially in its
> hey day as THE dance music of the day, not too great, but when one
> heard it one could right away know it was British trad - a new style
> based on the old tradition.  Which is as it should be.  Of course,
> some people do indeed try to play exactly as the old bands, and mourn
> the loss of audience, but their music is only a pastiche, so why
> bother?  On the other hands, some bands, like "Muggsy Remembered,"
> play Muggsy's music their own way.  Nobody could mistake them for
> Muggsy.  Another wonderful example is the Dutch Swing College Band -
> playing old music its own way.  So there still is hope!
> Cheers
> 
> On 12 December 2012 00:46, Rick Campbell <ricksax at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I recall talking a few years back with the late piano player and leader Don Gibson (Sons of Bix, Al Capone Memorial Jazz Band) after he retired to Portland.
>> 
>> He said, ?You know what's the difference between dixieland music fans in 1925 and today? When today's older crowds come to a jazz festival, they expect to hear old music, played in the same old way. In 1925, if you went to hear Louis Armstrong, you wanted to hear new music; music composed yesterday, and performed in a way to surprise and delight you."
>> 
>> So let's hope that the kids in LA are doing just that.
>> 
>> Personally, I enjoyed the Vaud and Villans video. I liked the girls dancing in bustieres, but I can't remember exactly why any more....
>> 
>> Rick Campbell
>> Milneburg Social Aid and Pleasure Society Jazz Band
>> Portland, Oregon USA
>> 503-701-7356
>> ricksax at comcast.net
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:08:04 +0100
> From: "Jim Kashishian" <jim at kashprod.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Old, but new!
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> Marek wrote:
>> I remembered asking a participant in the Mississippi RAg Forum whether it
> had occurred to him that the musicians might be bored playing Royal GArden
> Blues or ST. James' Infirmary for umpteen times.  His reply was that if so,
> they shouldn't play traditional jazz.
> 
> As you go on to say in your comments, Marek, these tunes can be played over
> & over, but don't have to be rigid in their makeup.  We are fortunate to
> still have clubs where we can play at, sometimes with 10 nites at a go.  How
> do you keep St. James from boring you? First off, have a rep. large enough
> so you don't have to do St. James every nigt.  And, when you do play it, do
> something different with it, in the ensembles, and particularly in your own
> solo.  It can only be boring if you are bored with your own playing, and
> that's a personal problem, not the song!  
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:31:53 +0200
> From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
> To: jim at kashprod.com
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Old, but new!
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> I am not a musician, Jim.
> Neverteless, my listening experience is that mpst bands repeat the
> same notes again and again.  Only occasionally they differ.  And the
> trad audiences request St. Lous Blues, Sweet Georgia Brown, etc., ad
> nauseam.
> Large repertoire?  Wasn't that what I suggested?  There are so many
> good songs around, amond them some that used to be very popular with
> bands in the '20's, '30's and '40's.  And there are new songs.  Only
> last night I listened to the World's Greatest Jazz Band playing, in
> addition to standards, things like "Sunny," Up,Up and Away and Ode to
> Billy Jones.  Nevertheless, later they seemed to have dropped them
> from their repertoire, as on the live recordings it was mostly
> standards and Bob Crosby songs.
> I have alredy mentioned here my very disappointing experience at Jimmy
> Ryan's in 1980, when basically very good bands were playing as if they
> were asleep.  Steve reacted that I witnessed a working band's fatigue,
> or something of the sort.  The second evening was a special
> experience: the band, led by Roy Eldridge, sounded as boring (and
> bored) as on the preceding night (with another trumpeter).  Then,
> during the intermission, two elderly ladies approached Eldridge.  They
> had a nice talk, with lots of laughter, and lo and behold! - the
> post-intermission Eldrdge was a changed musician!  He played his old
> hits with enthusiasm and verve, turning his trumpet towards those
> ladies.  At first, the band didn't catch up, but he just ignored it.
> After a few minutes, the band followed the leader, and what started as
> an extremely boring evening turned into great musical experience.  I
> should have thanked the intermission pianist Red Richards - had it no
> been for his wonderful playing, I'have left and not waited for the
> continuation.  As it was, I was sorry I had to leave around 1AM, but I
> had to catch the last train to BAbylon, Long Island.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 12 December 2012 11:08, Jim Kashishian <jim at kashprod.com> wrote:
>> Marek wrote:
>>> I remembered asking a participant in the Mississippi RAg Forum whether it
>> had occurred to him that the musicians might be bored playing Royal GArden
>> Blues or ST. James' Infirmary for umpteen times.  His reply was that if so,
>> they shouldn't play traditional jazz.
>> 
>> As you go on to say in your comments, Marek, these tunes can be played over
>> & over, but don't have to be rigid in their makeup.  We are fortunate to
>> still have clubs where we can play at, sometimes with 10 nites at a go.  How
>> do you keep St. James from boring you? First off, have a rep. large enough
>> so you don't have to do St. James every nigt.  And, when you do play it, do
>> something different with it, in the ensembles, and particularly in your own
>> solo.  It can only be boring if you are bored with your own playing, and
>> that's a personal problem, not the song!
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:44:26 +0100
> From: "Jim Kashishian" <jim at kashprod.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] FW:  Old, but new!
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> Marek wrote:
>> Large repertoire?  Wasn't that what I suggested?
> 
> Yes, you did, and I said I agreed with you.  I have seen that "bored" look
> when going to see really good bands at a long running gig before myself.  I
> won't mention any names, as they will be well-known on this list!  I thought
> it was such a shame.
> 
> I've also seen the bored musician come alive when a friend drops by, or when
> a pretty lady seems interested.  I really hate that! If he can play that
> well, why wasn't he doing it already.  He at least owes it to the other guys
> in the band. 
> 
> If you play a lot, you have to re