[Dixielandjazz] Showmanship

Steve Voce stevevoce at virginmedia.com
Sun Sep 11 15:36:23 PDT 2011


You're obviously not replying to anything that I wrote to you. You're confused. I'm sure you're not suggesting that I go back and read all your mails! 

Steve V

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On 11 Sep 2011, at 20:58, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:

> I suggest that you re-read all my  messages on the subject.  In the
> original mail I stated that I was put off and would not listen to
> Young for years. In a nessage of Srptember 10 I wrote " Now I know
> musicians must appeal not only to fans, but to the general public.  I
> did not then.
> 
> As to Armstrong, his clowning was not as blatant.  By the way, the
> shows I attended in Tel-Aviv were not good: Armstrong was not on form
> and played no solos, and the best came from Peanuts Hucko, even though
> "the crowd" loved Trummy's clowning and Danny Barcelona's drum solos.
> The auditorium itself was half-empty: jazz was not popular in Israel
> in those days.  Oscar Peterson visited Israel at about that time, and
> I did not even know - it was not advertised.  No wonder he played to
> empty rooms!
> And yes, I even mentioned that at 70 I understood things I did not
> understand at 18.
> 
>> Or perhaps at 70, you now realize that musicians do not perform specifically
>> for YOU, or any other individual,
> 
> It may come as a surprise to YOU, but even then I realized musicians
> did not "not perform specifically for me, or any other individual;"
> what I did not realize was that not everybody in the audience was a
> jazz fan.
> 
>>> Wasn't it just what I said?  Which does not mean I must LIKE it (I
>>> still don't).  But things I understand at 70 were not things I could
>>> understand at 18!
>> 
> 
>> 
>> Then you avoid discussing why, on the other hand, you enjoyed listening to
>> Louis Armstrong even though he was twice the showman Young was.
> 
> Was not relevant at the time.
>> 
>> You might be better off sitting in a room by yourself and listening to
>> records if you are going to be so inconsistently judgmental about what you
>> see in live performance.
> 
> Not my fault that you cannot see consistency.  Different perception, perhaps?
> 
> 
> Cheers
>> 
> 
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