[Dixielandjazz] Armstrong & Jazz

[Dixiejazzdata]

 Polite snip from Steve Barbone's post:


Some will claim that Hello Dolly, Blueberry Hill, Give Me a Kiss to  
Build a Dream On etc., are not real jazz but simply a sort of jazzy  
version of Pop. They claim there is a difference. They then go on to  
say that with the All Stars from 1947 on, he simply repeated what he  
had been playing in the past. And to those folks, that's not jazz  
either.


 
Yes and those same people  "THEY"  would  also say that changing partners in a
Cat house would not be real as it would take away the true meaning of masturbation, 
which almost all of "THEY " have been doing musically for their entire lives, repeating
 what "they" have been playing with for years and will do so well into the future.

Their favorite song is no doubt "One Note Samba"  :))

Some folks are definitely Musically challenged.   And no doubt married the first and 
probably only Cat they ever got naked with. :))     And that danged sure ain't Jazz :))

Some folks could not even spell Jazz with a Dictionary open to it in front of them :))

Jazz Is "Burger King"  Have it Your Way !!!   Somebody should approach Burger King to Sponsor Jazz events,
heck they might book everybody on a Jazz Festival , but wait !!  that would not be Real Jazz so it could not possibly work.

Cheers,

Bart



 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: B.B. Buffington <dixiejazzdata at aol.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 7, 2011 4:26 pm
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Armstrong & Jazz


> Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
>
> It might be my obstinacy, but I have not noticed that Armstrong ever
> stopped playing jazz - until he had to stop playing and could only
> sing (like "The Wonderful World").  Sure, he turned out top ten hits,
> such as "Mack the Knife" or "Hello Dolly," but to say they were not
> jazz would be far fetched.
> And yes, occasionally he did show in non-jazz contescts from time to
> time (I went to see a lousy film "The Beat Generation" because of
> Armstrong, and he sang a lousy number "Oh You Beat Generation"), but
> those were just deviations.

Dear Marek:

I am not taking sides here, but there are a fair number of fans and  
musicians here in the USA that claim Armstrong first stopped  
innovating in a jazz sense from about 1935 forward, give or take a few  
years. Then secondly, they will claim that he stopped creating solos,  
but rather repeated his previous work. Etc., etc., etc.

Some will claim that Hello Dolly, Blueberry Hill, Give Me a Kiss to  
Build a Dream On etc., are not real jazz but simply a sort of jazzy  
version of Pop. They claim there is a difference. They then go on to  
say that with the All Stars from 1947 on, he simply repeated what he  
had been playing in the past. And to those folks, that's not jazz  
either.

Are they right or wrong? Who cares. Folks like you and I will always  
find some genius in whatever Armstrong did.

However, like those who fault Armstrong for supposedly not playing  
jazz, you and I will disagree about John Coltrane or Miles Davis, whom  
you say do not play jazz but rather just make noise. <grin>

Kind of the same stuff, just a different day.

Cheers,


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