[Dixielandjazz] Cool trumpet players

[Larry Walton Entertainment]

Steve - you were very lucky to be at a place and time to hear such talent's. 
There were a few good players here but personally I didn't have access and 
they couldn't wait to get out of fly over land.  That's still pretty much 
the case.  They didn't even have a jazz station till way past time to give 
me anything.  Growing up, I wouldn't have had a clue as to who Bechet or 
some if those other guys were.

Although things have improved somewhat here in St. Louis, we are still a 
jazz backwater and that's too bad.  At least I don't live in the great 
musical wasteland West of KC and East of LA.

You said a mouthful about jazz being considered degenerate but R&R was 
really bad.  I have said that the 50's didn't happen here.  I can't give 
away my 50's show to this day.
Larry
StL
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen G Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:34 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Cool trumpet players


>I think kids play cool trumpet because that's what they hear.
>
> Think back, oldster musicians, to what you heard when you first  started 
> to play jazz. For me, a reed player I was first hearing  Bechet, Dodds, 
> Darnell Howard, on the radio. So I tried to play hot  like them. Then I 
> heard Goodman and Shaw so I tried to play like them.
>
> Then I started playing in a High School Dixieland Band at the same  time 
> as I was being taken to jazz clubs in NYC. I saw Edmond Hall, Sol  Pace, 
> Bechet again, George Lewis, Steve Lacy Omer Simeon and a bunch  of others. 
> So I borrowed a little more.
>
> There was no jazz taught in my schools back then. It was considered 
> degenerate music.
>
> Then I went to Loft sessions with a young Kenny Davern and played  along 
> side them, and a group of players like Bobby Gordon. Then, as a  teen,  I 
> sat in at Nicks and other joints, and finally, in college,  started 
> playing gigs with some of the Dixieland greats in bands at the  Melody 
> Lounge, The Kit Kat and the Hotel Carleton Rathskeller etc.  (with Bob 
> Haggart, Yank Lawson, Pee Wee Irwin, Miff Mole, Charlie  Traeger, Lee 
> Gifford, Jack Fay and others)
>
> Then I saw Tony Scott, Charlie Parker, Stan Getz, Al Cohn, Jimmy 
> Hamilton, Thelonious Monk, Horace Silver, Bud Powell, Charles Mingus, 
> Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane, Max Roach, Duke Ellington, Count  Basie, 
> el al at other clubs. And so my jazz horizons were further  broadened
>
> That was a rich musical environment.
>
> Now, where can a jazz wannabe get that today? There isn't much on  radio 
> or TV. There are not a lot of Jazz Nightclubs. Yes at least in  NYC, there 
> is a lot of "hot" jazz but it isn't OKOM by any stretch.  And the schools 
> teach Miles and cool jazz, except for a few that also  teach Maynard and 
> Kenton..
>
> Then to top it off, many old fart Dixieland bands don't want the kids  to 
> sit in. And many old fart Dixieland bands don't play hot either.  Most of 
> them fell off the Festival scene.
>
> So why should we expect kids today to play hot?
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>
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