[Dixielandjazz] Dixieland or Small Band Swing?

Joe Carbery joe.carbery at gmail.com
Sun Feb 13 12:23:11 PST 2011


Why bring ethnicity into it? Does a note care what colour of person blows or
sings it?

Regards,

Joe Carbery.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:16 AM, <Gluetje1 at aol.com> wrote:

> My vote is that is pretty well-classified as Small Band Swing.  I was  also
> thinking, "pre-bop" and then noticed that someone else said the same  under
> comments.  I agree with your last paragraph.
> Ginny
>
>
> In a message dated 2/13/2011 9:36:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>  barbonestreet at earthlink.net writes:
>
> In NYC  as the big swing bands started to fold, many of the black swing
> players, in order to make  living, shifted to what I would  call
> "Dixieland", but the media and talking heads called  "Small Band
> Swing". Below is an example. "After You've Gone" with  pretty much of a
> Dixieland instrumentation. Circa  1944.
>
> Personnel for The Blue Note Jazzmen, led by James P. Johnson,  are:
>
> Sidney DeParis (tpt); Vic Dickenson  (tb); Ben Webster  (tsax), James P
> Johnson (pno), Jimmy Shirley (gui); John Simmons  (bs); Sid Catlett  (dms.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gh_YLQWy8k
>
> When I grew up  in New York, there was a lot of this type of music to
> be heard, both  on 52nd Street and in Harlem. Might what we hear on the
> link  properly be called Black New York Style Dixieland?
>
> In any event not  much of this style was recorded and it is pretty much
> ignored today.  That's a pity because it swings its ass off, ensemble,
> solos and  rhythm.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve  Barbone
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>
>
>
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