[Dixielandjazz] Correct Recording Speed
Bert Brandsma
mister_bertje at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 3 05:26:06 PST 2011
Another thought about this,
the long glissandi Ory plays on Savoy Blues are almost impossible in G, they are very well possible in F.
in F from 6 position to 1 is perfect. In G in this register, it doesn't work, unless you have extra valves.
Another reason I think so is that Ory goes to E on C7 chord, had it been in G, he would have gone up further to A on D7 chord.
Kind regards,
Bert Brandsma
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:07:11 -0800
> From: cornet at clearwire.net
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Correct Recording Speed
> CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> To: mister_bertje at hotmail.com
>
> My first thought after reading this was - why is this person even suggesting
> this? Dippermouth Blues in the key of G?
>
> Looking at this logically, let's consider subsequent recordings of the tune.
> (the original recordings (one for Gennett, one for Okeh)) are in C
>
> Fletcher Henderson w/Louis, 1925: Bb
>
> King Oliver (as Sugar Foot Stomp 1926): C
>
> Benny Goodman, 1936: Bb
>
> Bunny Berigan, 1939: Bb
>
> Louis, 1936: Bb
>
> as Dippermouth BLues
>
> Johnie Miller, 1928: C
>
> almost every subsequent version is in the key of Bb
>
> So, if we believe this "well kept secret," the original recordings were at
> the wrong speed and every band since Oliver's recording has played this tune
> in the wrong key (including Oliver's own recording from 1926).
>
> This guy (Richard Alabone) is totally out of his gourd.
>
> Granted, some of the Hot 5 recordings ARE pitched incorrectly - but NOT
> faster! They should actually play just a bit slower. Take, for instance,
> Savoy Blues. The Okeh recording put the tune in G. It should be in F, the
> key Ory (who wrote it) always played it in, and every subsequent recording
> is in that key. But if we are to believe Mr. Alabone, even these recordings
> are way too fast. Cobblers...
>
> Regards,
> Marvin
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