[Dixielandjazz] playing for young audience

Larry Walton Entertainment larrys.bands at charter.net
Fri Aug 19 12:23:05 PDT 2011


Personally I don't care what their ages are as long as there is a check at 
the end.  The big problem around here is that the bars where the young 
people hang out either don't have live music or the pay is too low to 
interest me.

The last time I played a bar was with another band (Motown / top 40).  We 
got free beers, wings and $25.  Since I didn't drink there went half the 
pay.  I didn't want to do it at all but it was a slow time and he had a 
couple of auditions come by.  There are so many musicians that line up to 
play such jobs that there just isn't any money in it.

I don't like smoke so I haven't gone after that business for a very long 
time.  Recently they did pass a no smoking ban but it's really too late.
Larry
St. Louis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen G Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
Cc: "Bob Romans" <cellblk7 at comcast.net>; "Jim Kashishian" 
<jim at kashprod.com>; "Tito Martino" <titomartino at gmail.com>; "DJML" 
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<help at bohemragtime.com>; <Jim at jimivy.com>; "Skonberg Bria" 
<briaskonberg at hotmail.com>; "Bill Haesler" <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>; 
"Ittzés Tamás" <bohem at fibermail.hu>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] playing for young audience


> Dear Robert:
>
> Please continue as long as you like about this subject. Note that I  have 
> removed Bob Ringwald from the addressees. He may not be  interested in 
> this subject matter and certainly has heard it all  before since it has 
> been discussed on the DJML for decades. However, I  and perhaps some 
> others am vitally interested in sharing opinions  about audiences with 
> people who have not heard it all before.
>
> It's kind of like "Old Folks" in general. They have heard it all  before 
> and so do not wish to discuss it, and/or listen to certain  types of jazz. 
> Band leaders like Tito Martino and me (and others) are  always glad to 
> share opinions. And we realize that the DJML is a  living and dying chat 
> list. Of the 600 or so members, the new folks on  the list who have 
> replaced those who have died off, certainly have not  heard all these 
> discussion points before. IMO, those new members  should neither be 
> ignored, nor dismissed with "we've heard all that  before". Basically 
> because some of us old boys on the DJML have heard  most of the subjects 
> discussed on it before. As for me, soon to be 78,  so what?
>
> One thing for sure, the older audience is dying off. Who else but  younger 
> folks will be around to listen and dance to the music? I  personally enjoy 
> sharing opinions with you and urge you to continue as  you see fit since I 
> believe that your opinions are valuable.
>
> I also urge you to join the DJML. No doubt every discussion on it will 
> not be of interest to you and so I urge you to do what I do. Get it in 
> digest form and just skip by those discussions that are of no  interest. 
> Takes me only 15 minutes or so to go through each digest and  there are 
> usually 2 or less digests per day.
>
> BTW, we routinely play Original Dixieland One Step for young dancers  and 
> that tune was recorded by the ODJB in 1917 and is probably about  100 
> years old. They LOVE it.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Robert Duis wrote:
>
>> Some (maybe most) members in this list do not like me to speak about 
>> this subject. So I will stop.
>>
>> Last thought: Playing to youngsters is different of interest  youngsters 
>> of music older than 20 years at a maximum.
>>
>> robert duis.
>>
>>
>> Op 19-aug-2011, om 18:41 heeft Tito Martino het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> Hi Steve
>>>
>>> oh, my!  you've been extremely restrained and modest in that mail!
>>> You're actually a champion of living Jazz, oposed to dead Jazz and a
>>> well succeded leader of a band working 150+ gigs yearly !
>>> And with higher fees than any other band around there !
>>>
>>> So your words are to be taken very seriously, YOU are clearly  REALISTIC 
>>> in your OPTIMISM.
>>>
>>> I try to do the same around here, in a much lesses scale.
>>>
>>> That's why I can't agree with our listmate Robert Duis.
>>>
>>> Dear Duis
>>>
>>>  I saw your Band playing in youtube, like very much, there
>>> is the old arranged big-band style;
>>>
>>>
>>> and  here you can see my Band
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD_mAlG8k9c   Since my Best Gal
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZAPnDhnLjs&feature=related      C  Jam 
>>> Blues
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWnX6O1_tEY     Bourbon St. Parade
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxmbmbVStjc       Rose Room
>>>
>>> I wish you remark the YOUNG people in the audience and see their 
>>> reactions especially to CJam Bues.
>>>
>>> These clips are a little old but my Band is basically the same today
>>> and we keep playing to young audiences!
>>>
>>> You can see the difference between the kind of Jazz you play and  the 
>>> kind of Jazz I play
>>> and that it reaches to the youngs.
>>>
>>>  keep on swinging!
>>>
>>> Tito Martino
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Stephen G Barbone 
>>> <barbonestreet at earthlink.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Robert Duis wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Dear "ALL"...........
>>>>
>>>>                   Regarding the Interesting discussion about the  OH 
>>>> YEAH DAY:
>>>>                    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>                    My name is robert duis (74) and fanatic amateur 
>>>> traditional jazz performer as the leader of the 
>>>> www.limehouse-jazzband.nl
>>>>
>>>>                    I think an "Oh Yeah Day" (Tamas ' idea) is  "better" 
>>>> than a Louis Armstrong or a Duke Ellington or a Bix  Beiderbecke 
>>>> Day....
>>>>                    ................when trying to interest younger 
>>>> people to the Traditional Jazz but I am a realist and I am a  pessimist 
>>>> in this respect:
>>>>
>>>>                    Better put energy and activities in trying to 
>>>> enlarge the 60+ market for OUR music than thinking to reach a  younger 
>>>> 30- market. NO CHANCE!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>                    Mozart / Beethoven / Chopin / Louis Armstrong  and 
>>>> even The Beatles are "stations" that do NOT come  back..............
>>>>
>>>>                    Invite your neighbour of 60+ instead of her /  his 
>>>> son of 30- for your concert.  Thinking of 20 / 15 / 10 year  young 
>>>> girls and boys is not more than STUPID!
>>>>
>>>>                    The Concertgebouw in Amsterdam has 2.000 seats. 
>>>> Give 2.000 tickets free of charge to young people for a concert of  the 
>>>> very best Traditional JAZZERS in the world
>>>>                    and the Theatre stays empty or will be full of  the 
>>>> parents and the grandparents of these kids who gave their  tickets away 
>>>> and .......... do not be disappointed and/or angry  about that.
>>>>
>>>>                    Nobody stops the "Wonderful World of Louis!"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Robert & others:
>>>
>>> I respectfully disagree and have posted many examples over the past  10 
>>> years of how to play for YOUNG people. By simply playing at  venues 
>>> where they are, drinking, dancing and having a good time.  Not to 
>>> belabor the point, see the below jpgs.,etc. My band does  these kinds of 
>>> gigs MANY times a year and this explains why we have  so many gigs in 
>>> comparison to bands that only court old folks.  Young people venues is 
>>> where the action is. Been like that ever  since the ODJB hit Chicago and 
>>> NYC circa 1917. Most old folks don't  go out any more.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve Barbone
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Tito Martino Jazz Band
>>> www.titomartinojazzband.com.br
>>> titomartino at gmail.com
>>>
>>
>
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