[Dixielandjazz] Krupa & Ride Cymbals

[John Petters]

Marvin,
You are right in saying that Krupa played ride on 'Bessie'. He also did 
the same on 'Deep Down South' with Bix and 'China Boy' with Red Nichols, 
behind the cornet. He wasn't the first.
http://www.traditional-jazz.com/mainpages/krupa.htm

Before that, however, there is, 'That's Like it ought To Be', Jelly Roll 
Morton's Trio, 1929 where Zutty can be clearly heard for 8 bars playing 
open ride.
The clip is on my website here:
http://www.traditional-jazz.com/mainpages/zutty.htm

The earliest ride recording I can find is 'Room 1411', Benny & His Boys, 
1928, with Ben Pollock on drums. Not regarded as an innovator, but did 
he perhaps introduce the ride cymbal to jazz

What is interesting is that Gene, an early practitioner, abandoned the 
ride until the mid 30s with Goddman and then only used it sparingly, 
until the 40s.

Gene maintained the use of the press roll throughout his career, even on 
the late Goodman small groups into 1973. (also on the Krupa page on my 
website)

Morehouse was a totally different player. He didn't have the New Orleans 
/ Chicago concept of beat that Wettling, Tough & Krupa had.

-- 
John Petters
www.traditional-jazz.com
Amateur Radio Station G3YPZ


On 17/08/2010 06:44, dixielandjazz-request at ml.islandnet.com wrote:
> Definitely Krupa, based on the playing from "Bessie Couldn't Help It" from
> the same session.
> BTW, "Bessie..." is the first recording of a drummer (Krupa) playing a ride
> cymbal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12uOMZpry5Y
> (at 1:11 behind Bud Freeman) (he does the same thing on the other take,
> too). As far as I know, there are no recordings from that time period of
> Morehouse playing ride cymbal. But the drumming on "Bessie" reminds me of
> Zutty SIngleton, which would make sense if it was Krupa, since Zutty was one
> of his favorites.
>
> Tom Lord's discography lists Morehouse, but also states "instead of Krupa ?"
> Obviously implying some question of Morehouse's presence.
>

-- 
John Petters
www.traditional-jazz.com
Amateur Radio Station G3YPZ