[Dixielandjazz] DeParis Dickenson et al was Buck Clayton & Terrassi's

[Stephen G Barbone]

On Oct 11, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Marek Boym wrote:

> I know.  But, if so, why did he and his brother choose to play
> Dixieland on Commodore and Blue Note?  On Blue Note it is especially
> conspicuous, as almost the same band, under James P. Johnson's
> leadership plays swing, and becmes Dixieland when S. de paris assumes
> the leadership role?

They chose to play Dixieland on Commodore and Blue Note because a  
paying gig is a paying gig and in the 1940s, times were changing  
musically, from big and small band swing to Dixieland in New York City.

>
> Sure.  When there was big band or small group swing work, he did not
> need to change.  I did not argue that he preferred Dixieland - that
> related to the de paris brothers.  I just said that I heard him play
> Dixieland before I heard him playing swing (with his septet which
> included Ruby Braff).  I came to jazz in the mid-fifties.  as to
> Clayton, I did not realize he, too, played Dixieland before joining
> condon in the mid-60's.  And I know that this happened to many others
> - Trummy Young, for example.

If you heard them on records, from the 1950s, then obviously you hear  
them playing Dixieland. Because they switched in the 1940w/early  
1950s. Before that, they were basically big band swing and dance music  
players.

My point, which you disagreed with without basis for doing so, was  
that musos like DeParis, Dickenson et al, switched to Dixieland by  
1950, because that's where the money and the gigs were.

Any Dixieland musician who was playing in New York City at that time,  
will tell you that.

As to playing Dixieland before, say 1949, almost every jazz musician  
played some Dixieland when a paying opportunity presented itself. That  
includes guys like Dizzy Gillespie, Charlie Parker, Coleman Hawkins,  
Lester Young, and assorted be boppers as well as big band players,  
which is why you can hear a record now and then of them doing just that.

Cheers,
Steve Barbone
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