[Dixielandjazz] Old Cornet

Tue Oct 6 13:19:19 PDT 2009

Hi Bob,
JW Pepper originated in Philadelphia in the middle of the 19th century  
and is still in the music business, but mostly as a retailer and not  
publisher. They are the largest supplier of printed music to  
educational institutions and church choirs. Their "home office" is in  
Paoli, Pennsylvania and I have been there countless times to choose  
music for my school groups. Unfortunately, there is not very much  
music left for browsing in Paoli or their other 13 branches. They have  
consolidated their stock into two main shipping locations - Atlanta  
and Salt Lake City.

In their lobby area at Paoli, they have a showcase containing several  
vintage instruments which bear the Pepper name, including a helicon,  
and a collection of vintage photographs connected with their history.  
They ceased their instrument manufacturing operations in 1909, but  
continued to sell their stock of instruments. If you are interested in  
their history, go to this page:  http://www.jwpepper.com/catalog/pep_history.jsp

Cheers,
John

On Oct 6, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:

> Elazar wrote:
>
> The name on mine says J.W. Pepper.
>>>
>>> Someone I showed the horn to who is supposed to know such things  
>>> said JW
>>> Pepper was a music publishing company that used to buy horns with  
>>> their own
>>> name on them, and that this was a popular thing to do around the  
>>> turn of the century.
>
>
> I suspect they sold the horns with their name on them.
>
> --Bob Ringwald
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Ingle" <cornet at 1010internet.com>
> To: "Bob Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
> Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Old Cornet
>
>
>> Ministry of Jazz wrote:
>>> Shalom Margaret,
>>>
>>> This sounds very much like a horn I bought on eBay a couple years  
>>> ago. About
>>> 100 years old, shepherd's crook, silver, and the leather case  
>>> sounds exactly
>>> like what mine came in. Mine was/is in pretty good condition,  
>>> possibly
>>> refurbished before I got it. The name on mine says J.W. Pepper.
>>>
>>> Someone I showed the horn to who is supposed to know such things  
>>> said JW
>>> Pepper was a music publishing company that used to buy horns with  
>>> their own
>>> name on them, and that this was a popular thing to do around the  
>>> turn of the
>>> last century. You might check out this possibility with your horn,  
>>> that is,
>>> check if the name could have been a music publisher that sold  
>>> instruments in
>>> their own name.
>>>
>>> My cornet is quite a nice horn, especially considering its age and  
>>> the price
>>> I paid for it.
>>>
>>> Elazar
>>> Doctor Jazz Dixieland Band
>>> Jerusalem, Israel
>>> www.doctorjazz.co.il
>>> +972-2-679-2537
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Margaret Squires [mailto:margeaux10 at yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:29 PM
>>> To: dixieland jazz mail list
>>> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
>>> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Old Cornet
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone help identify an old cornet?  It may be about 100 years  
>>> old and
>>> is in excellent condition.
>>>
>>> The name on the bell is difficult to read.  The first name is  
>>> Jean.  The
>>> last name on first glance looks like "Marleca" or "Marlecu".  But  
>>> the "M"
>>> could be a "W" and the "L" could be a "B".  The cornet has a  
>>> laquer finish,
>>> but we suspect it was originally silver.  Shepherd's crook, double  
>>> spit
>>> valve lever on the bottom of the horn, tuning slide stop rod.
>>>
>>> The case is a satchel style with a flap that flips over the top  
>>> and latches
>>> and the cornet just rests in the case.  There is no padding in it.
>>>
>>> Sound familiar to anyone?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your help!
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>> Modesto, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> I picked up an old cornet that sound quire like the one you  
>> described,
>> but it is barelyplayable andwas used mostly for a prop for photos.
>> It was sold under the name of Wurlitzer,Chicago, who solda line of  
>> many
>> instruments under their name, but of what actual maker I do not know.
>> I also have a metal clarinet I bought off of Jazz Ltd. house bandmate
>> Barrett Deems in the '6o's. Barrett was always "selling" somthing  
>> he'd
>> picked up and bugged every body on the band into trying to unload
>> something. I finally told him I'd give him two bucks for it if he'd  
>> just
>> shut the hell up about it. He took it and the piece of junk, sold  
>> as a
>> school band instrument in some past time under the Name of Illini  
>> (short
>> for Illinois). It,too has been used for photo setups.
>> My personal horn is an older Conn Victor Cornet - for me the best  
>> horn
>> of its kind I ever had, though I have three other good ones. Friend
>> Wayne Jones, a drummer, had three Victors- for what reason other than
>> collectingI don't know, since he is one of the best and tastiest
>> Chicago-style and trad jazz drummers I ever worked with (he listens
>> intently to the players, never over plays, and even seems to breath
>> together with the wind players.)
>> One can get caught up in collecting horns. Sincere retiring from  
>> active
>> playing a year ago, I often wonder when my own EBAY sale will  
>> occur; but
>> for now I may just concentrate on my old idea of making boutique  
>> lamps
>> out of the stash of brass. My valve trombone would make a good  
>> chandelier!
>> Happy new year in your part of the world,
>> Don  Ingle
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