[Dixielandjazz] Definitive Panama Record
Gluetje1 at aol.com
Gluetje1 at aol.com
Sun Oct 4 19:35:21 PDT 2009
I'm feeling a need to speak up on behalf of all kinds of wannabees I know
who have used Sheik's research and resulting books as basic jazz
instruction resources. We are somewhat sizeable in number and need to be appreciated
by any who are hoity-toity. (Interesting -- I just looked that word up
and it means "thoughtless giddy behavior". Not at all what I "thought" it
meant.) But I'll leave the word, since I'm fairly certain that folks may be
jumping in to "fuss" at Sheik without knowing why he sought opinions on a
"definitive" version. His books are learning tools. And I sometimes am
pretty sure I am hearing "varying from melody" from pretenders who never had
much clue about the melody to begin with. I'd just as soon folks would
learn the initial melody and harmony first. Increases the odds that I will
appreciated their improvisation. But I suppose that makes me hoity-toity too.
LOL.
I thought Sheik's original question was very clear; i.e., paraphrased, if
someone ones to learn the tune using their ears, who is a good source for
the original melody?
Seems fair enough to me to want knowledge on that.
There, now I feel so much better.
Ginny
In a message dated 10/4/2009 3:50:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
richard.flecknell at ntlworld.com writes:
Good morning Sheik,
have to disagree on playing the tune as written or very close to it.
We certainly wouldn't have the jazz or the great players. Enjoy Red Allen,
Wild Bill, Humph, George Lewis, Kid Ory and Eureka Brass Band (great
version of Panama ~ c1961/62) and all the variations. This straying from the
melody especially by the greats is one of the kicks we get from jazz. Remember
a full version of Panama with solos as well probably couldn't have fitted
onto a 78rpm. There's also Panama Rag to worry about try New Orleans
Ragtime Orchestra c72.
Richard
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