[Dixielandjazz] Verse To Struttin' With Some BBQ

[Robert Ringwald]

Bill,

Below you wrote:

(snip)
> They are not in the verse of Louis Armstrong's Hot Five rendition (9 
> December 1927) but the stops are.
> These Louis stops also occur on the Bob Crosby 1939 World  transcription 
> recording and the George Wettling 1944 Commodore session.
(snip)

I am asking about the back beats on the middle 4-measures of the verse. 
What do you mean by "but the stops are"?  In other words, what do you mean 
by "stops?"

Best,

--Bob Ringwald






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Haesler" <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:26 AM
Subject: Verse To Struttin' With Some BBQ


>> Still wondering who first recorded the 4-bar back beats on the 5, 6,  7, 
>> & 8th measures on the verse to Struttin'.
>> Someone said that Turk Murphy did it on a recording in 1952.
>> Does anyone know of any earlier recordings that uses those back beats?
>
> Dear Bob,
> The back beats in the verse of "Struttin' With Some Barbecue" are on  Turk 
> Murphy's version recorded for Good Time Jazz on 19 January 1950  (he did 
> not record it in 1952). Twice. The intro and later after the  trombone 
> solo.
> He used much the same arrangement 10 years later for the Victor  session 
> with Ernie Carson on 2 May 1961.
> They are not in the verse of Louis Armstrong's Hot Five rendition (9 
> December 1927) but the stops are.
> These Louis stops also occur on the Bob Crosby 1939 World  transcription 
> recording and the George Wettling 1944 Commodore session.
> Lu Watters' used only one break (with cymbal crash) in his several 
> renditions in the 1940s and later.
> Others in the 40s, including Louis and Jimmy Dorsey, didn't use the 
> breaks or back beats, opting instead for either no verse or a piano  lead 
> in.
> So it would seem that Turk gets the ceegar for the arrangement.
> The DJML Turk-o-phile, Mike Logsdon, will be pleased.
> 8>)
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
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