[Dixielandjazz] Brubeck....jazz or not?

[macjazz]

Interesting discussion re Brubeck vs. OKOM.

I was in the opposite situation at one time at a Jazz club meeting in 
Chicago.  I was the only one there who was a OKOM/Dixieland enthusiast and I 
was firmly told "that isn't jazz. It's just a bunch of guys rehashing the 
same old thing all the time."

Now they didn't have much love for Brubeck either. He wasn't "modern" enough 
for them either.

I would think (and thought) there was room for all of us!  Ya pays your 
money and ya takes yer cherce.

Mart

Martin D. McKay, (Designated Listener)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marek Boym" <marekboym at gmail.com>
To: "Martin D. McKay" <macjazz at comcast.net>
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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Montreal Jazz Festival/Location


> >
>> Picky, picky, picky. <grin>
>
> Right!
>>
>> If not jazz, then what? I know, no doubt you would call Brubeck "noise".
>
> No.  Quite musical, even if too bland to be jazz.
>
> But
>> I think just about everyone else in the world calls it jazz.
>
> Isn't EVERYONE rather a lot of people?  I hark back to the mouldy old
> days when "jazz" fans just rejected anything "modern."  Well, at least
> by assocoation (by the time I discovered jazz, the worst part of the
> war was over).  Besides, have you ever heard of "brainwashing?"  I
> srongly recommend Orwell's "1984" on this subject.
>
>>What is there
>> in his music that does not fit the definition of jazz?
>
> I don't wish to go back to the "cool" vs. "hot" dispute.
>
> And if Desmond and
>> Morello are not jazz musicians, nobody is.
>
> In a free world, everybody is allowed an opinion, even if i don't agree 
> with it.
>
> Must stop now and get ready for the last day of the Caesarea Jazz
> Festival.  Yesterday (ended today, of course), with the International
> Swing Quintet (every member from a different country: Finland, Sweden,
> Roumania, UK and USA) and the Israeli Swing de Gitanes, was wonderful.
> Is the Swing de Gitanes good?  Ask John Cocuzzi who was so impressed
> as to get on stage and sing with the band!  And promised to join it
> again today, on snare drum (no piano od vibes on the promenade stage
> where it plays).
> And waht a beautiful sunset!
>
>
> Cheers.
>>
>
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