[Dixielandjazz] (Not) preaching to the choir of old folks
Jim Franz
jfranz at triad.rr.com
Sat Jul 18 13:10:05 UTC 2009
Every summer many high school & colleges have summer band camp (like all day
for a week).
We do a 1 hr clinic for some in the area (free). The history, the style,
the instruments (many have not seen a banjo up close), play some tunes...
They love it - and always want to know where the next gig is, or to get a
cd. Consider it building your customer base.
Jim Franz
Gate City Jazz Band
Greensboro, NC
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Yes for focusing or playing for young generations but then we should
perhaps include in our bands teenagers and/or young musicians.
Regards from Geneva
Jacques
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1. Re: Australian Busker - OT (Jack Mitchell)
2. Re: Australian Busker - OT (M J (Mike) Logsdon)
3. Re: Australian Busker - OT (boreda at sbcglobal.net)
4. Re. Dixieland and the Mickey Mouse Club - "Tiger Rag"
(Nancy Doran Giffin)
5. Re: Australian Busker - OT (David Richoux)
6. Re: Australian Busker - OT (Jack Mitchell)
7. Re: The new OKOM audience (Ministry of Jazz)
8. Re: Australian Busker - OT (M J (Mike) Logsdon)
9. Re: Micro Beer and OKOM (was Australian Busker ) (David Richoux)
10. Re: Australian Busker - OT (pj.ladd)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:25:06 +1000
From: "Jack Mitchell" <fjmitch at westnet.com.au>
To: "David Richoux" <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
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David Richoux wrote:-
> Not a "great" beer, but a pretty good advertisement from Down Under:
I thought you were American David, but obviously I was wrong - the coloured
water I drank in the USA that was sold as beer wouldn't train anyone to be a
beer judge. Three weeks I spent there and not one hangover!
Best wishes
Jack
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:40:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: "M J (Mike) Logsdon" <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
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>>>I thought you were American David, but obviously I was wrong - the
>>>coloured
water I drank in the USA that was sold as beer wouldn't train anyone to be a
beer judge. Three weeks I spent there and not one hangover!<<<
A little behind the times, you are. We in the Up Over are at least 20 years
into what's called the "microbrew phenomenon". To characterise us by the
watery crud you claim to have experienced just means you weren't given a
real beer. The average microbrewed ale is 5 - 7 percent. Nothing to
sneeze at. And then there's barley wine....
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: boreda at sbcglobal.net
To: "M J \(Mike\) Logsdon" <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
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Right on there, good Father. However if the imports? were as good as those
found in their Native Clime , we could all be content. I guess "KB 35" is no
longer available , Shaeffs stout, etc. Miss those labels .
?
I was laughing so hard, tI couldn't quite hear the band.
?
Iechyd Da????( Thanks to Robert Calder)
?
?
--- On Fri, 7/17/09, M J (Mike) Logsdon <mjl at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From: M J (Mike) Logsdon <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
To: "Ed Coltrin" <boreda at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 6:40 PM
>>>I thought you were American David, but obviously I was wrong - the
>>>coloured
water I drank in the USA that was sold as beer wouldn't train anyone to be a
beer judge. Three weeks I spent there and not one hangover!<<<
A little behind the times, you are.? We in the Up Over are at least 20 years
into what's called the "microbrew phenomenon".? To characterise us by the
watery crud you claim to have experienced just means you weren't given a
real beer.? The average microbrewed ale is 5 -? 7 percent.? Nothing to
sneeze at.? And then there's barley wine....
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nancy Doran Giffin <nancyink at surewest.net>
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Cc: Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>, Dixieland Jazz
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re. Dixieland and the Mickey Mouse Club -
"Tiger Rag"
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:51:36 -0400
> From: Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Dixieland and the Mickey Mouse Club
> Here are two youtubes of the Firehouse Five Plus Two playing
> some "functional" Dixieland, for the youngsters on a Mickey
> Mouse Club show years ago. This is a fine example of making
> the music relevant to kids. No "art music" here, just plain
> old excitement and joy imparted to the audience...
Thanks, Steve.
I wonder if those kids had one day to learn that dance???
NOW fast-forward to 2008 where the same tune is still as energetic and
relevant (albeit not played as well as FH5) on the streets of New Orleans. A
very receptive crowd enjoys listening to the band LOOSE MARBLES as a young
couples dances with fervor, and we get to see that the song is suitable for
a woman to whirl 10-15 Hula-Hoops in time with the music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT-Q9zoh7LQ
On trumpet or cornet is Ben Polcer, son of NY cornetist Ed Polcer. Not sure
of who else is in the clip, but I know that Jason Jurzak of Blue Street has
been known to play bass/tuba with this band.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:55:38 -0700
From: David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
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Jack,
As Brother Mike says - there are now some very good beers here in
Merika, I don't waste my time with Bud or Coors or most mainstream
"yellow water!"
I have travelled to more than 25 countries on my own, or with my band,
and another 10 or so courtesy of the US Navy, including Australia
(and Austria) and sampled a fair amount of good and great beer along
the way. We often play for micro-brew festivals in Northern
California, a good way to sample a wide selection.
I rank VB as a very good beer - when I had it on draft - cans and
bottles, not quite as much (as is usually true for most beers.)
Certainly it is better than Fosters! ;-)
For my personal taste, depending on place, temperature and proper
draft availability my all-time favorite is still Guinness Stout, but
there are some "local" Lagers, Pills, other stouts and ales I have
enjoyed all over the world...
Dave Richoux
On Jul 17, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Jack Mitchell wrote:
> David Richoux wrote:-
>
>> Not a "great" beer, but a pretty good advertisement from Down Under:
>
> I thought you were American David, but obviously I was wrong - the
> coloured water I drank in the USA that was sold as beer wouldn't
> train anyone to be a beer judge. Three weeks I spent there and not
> one hangover!
>
> Best wishes
> Jack
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:15:00 +1000
From: "Jack Mitchell" <fjmitch at westnet.com.au>
To: "David Richoux" <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
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Mike and Dave
I'm delighted to learn that there are now some good beers in the US of A. A
sign of civilisation! The only thing to drink whilst listening to real
dixeland music.
Best wishes
Jack
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:24:17 +0200
From: "Ministry of Jazz" <jazzmin at actcom.net.il>
To: <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] The new OKOM audience
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Shalom Jazz Fans,
I have been in Israel for nearly 14 years now, and my most productive form
of advertising is playing on the pedestrian streets downtown. It doesn't
cost anything. If you put out a hat you make at least pocket money, often
more, and you can sell CDs, give out business cards, and also flyers for
upcoming public events.
Playing out in public has consistently been THE single largest producer of
gigs for me and my band. And the customers are generally Israelis of
non-western origin who were not familiar with trad jazz until they heard us
play it.
I have tried advertising in magazines, sending out press kits with CDs, and
we have a website, and so on, but they produce nothing compared to getting
out there and letting the public hear the music. People often tell me that I
should be targeting tourists or older English speakers, but our experience
is that they don't want to pay for shows. Some will be glad if we come to
their events and play for free "for the exposure". But this has rarely
prodced any worthwhile results.
So if you enjoy playing, get out there where the people are and play for
them. Where else will new audiences hear our music? It's not on the radio,
and rarely in the movies. It's not being promoted by the so-called music
industry. Yet we all know that people like our music when they hear it. So,
let them hear it from us!
Elazar
Doctor Jazz Dixieland Band
Jerusalem, Israel
www.doctorjazz.co.il
+972-2-679-2537
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On 16/07/2009, Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi Don: & DJML Listmates:
>
> This is the face of "new audiences". It is why most bands and festivals
are
> not gaining audience. Simply because they are preaching to the choir of
old
> folks who heard the music 50 years ago. New folks like this lady haven't
> heard it and never will unless we target them by playing where they are,
or
> figuring out how to get them to festivals. They surround us.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:02:45 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: "M J (Mike) Logsdon" <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
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>>>The only thing to drink whilst listening to real
dixeland music.<<<
Let's not leave out our good 40%+ friends....
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:08:31 -0700
From: David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Micro Beer and OKOM (was Australian
Busker )
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Jack (and everybody looking for gigs) -
Do check out regional micro-brewer festivals - they almost always have
bands, you can have a totally new audience of lightly toasted
young(ish) folks who are having an afternoon or early evening of
enjoying fine beers and foods, and etc. Some good OKOM could go over
well.
I have played at dozens of such festivals in Northern California and
one in Osaka - the trend is spreading all over the place - all over
the world!
http://www.beer-brewing-advice.com/Microbrew_Festivals.html or just
Google microbrew festivals for something that might be happening in
your area. Even St. Louis, home of Anhauser-Busch and Bud Light has one!
http://stlmicrofest.com/
Even OZ!
http://www.festivalofbeer.com/
Dave Richoux
On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:15 PM, Jack Mitchell wrote:
> Mike and Dave
>
> I'm delighted to learn that there are now some good beers in the US
> of A. A sign of civilisation! The only thing to drink whilst
> listening to real dixeland music.
>
> Best wishes
> Jack
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:21:14 +0100
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd at btinternet.com>
To: "David Richoux" <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
Cc: jazz <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Australian Busker - OT
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For my personal taste, depending on place, temperature and proper
draft availability my all-time favorite is still Guinness Stout,
>>
Hi Dave,
Even that varies. The stuff you get in Ireland is streets ahead of the
Guiness her in the UK.
Cheers
Pat
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