[Dixielandjazz] Big Four in New Orleans drumming.

[macjazz]

I have also learned from and enjoyed this one a whole lot. My thanks to 
everyone too.

Mart

Martin D. McKay, Designated Listener

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Richoux" <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
To: "Martin D. McKay" <macjazz at comcast.net>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Big Four in New Orleans drumming.


> Thanks, Steve!
>
> For all the years I have been playing in, and playing recordings of  New 
> Orleans Brass Bands I had not heard of the exact term "Big 4"  until this 
> discussion started on TubeNet...
>
> Dave RIchoux
>
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Stephen G Barbone wrote:
>
>>
>>> David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This question came up over on the TubeNet list and no really
>>> satisfactory answers have been found, so I thought I would ask the
>>> experts!
>>>
>>> Wynton Marsalis seems to give two very different meanings to the term
>>> - in this video clip: 
>>> http://jazz.learnhub.com/lesson/10127-what-is-the-big-four-beat
>>> he is talking about the Buddy Bolden Band synchopated bass line
>>> through a song,
>>>
>>> but in this lesson he seems to be talking just about the 1 2 3 4 beat
>>> of the bass drum as part of the roll-off to a song:
>>> http://www.weboschools.org/webo/staff/hiseyba/generalmusic/ lesson1.pdf
>>>
>>> Any other ideas or references, anybody? Not a lot turning up on web
>>> searches nor in my New Orleans Brass Band / New Orleans Jazz  reference
>>> books (although I have not done an extensive study yet...)
>>
>> Hi Dave:
>>
>> Here is what Wynton Marsalis quoting Danny Barker said about "big  four" 
>> when interviewed by Dr. Billy Taylor  on one of Taylor's NPR  programs . 
>> . . Billy Taylor's Jazz.
>>
>> Dr. Taylor inquires about the importance of the famous New Orleans  bass 
>> drum beat as the foundation of the local style. Marsalis shares  a lesson 
>> from Barker, who explained, "Now, this bass drum is the key  to our whole 
>> music". He emphasized the "conversation" between the  drumbeat and 
>> responding cymbal crash on the first three beats. On  the fourth beat 
>> (known as the "big four"), the two are hit together.  According to 
>> Barker, "when they 'talk' together, that's the most  important point".
>>
>> For the rest of the article, see:
>> http://www.npr.org/programs/btaylor/archive/marsalis_w.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Barbone
>> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>>
>
>
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