[Dixielandjazz] Miff Mole

[Bill Haesler]

Stephen G Barbone wrote:
> For that 16 note, clarinet like, trombone break by Miff Mole on the  
> intro to Original Dixieland One Step
>   http://www.rhapsody.com/album/battle-of-trombones?artistId=art.56209
> There is another version on Red Hot jazz which appears to be  
> different as the trombone takes the first two breaks, but they are  
> not as complicated as the one break on the Rhapsody version.
>    http://www.redhotjazz.com/rn5p.html
> On the Rhapsody version Mole plays VERY cleanly, and when you hear  
> the bass sax solo later.
> I'm not sure when the Rhapsody version was recorded, but the one on  
> Red Hot Jazz shows as June 1, 1928.
> Perhaps Bill Haesler can tell us.

Dear Steve,
My pleasure.
As you state, there are two different recordings involved almost a  
year apart.

Miff Mole and His Little Molers.
Red Nichols (c) Miff Mole (tb) Pee Wee Russell (cl) Adrian Rollini  
(bsx) Arthur Schutt (p) Dick McDonough (bj) Carl Kress (g) Vic Berton  
(d)
Recorded for Okeh. New York, August 30, 1927
     http://www.redhotjazz.com/Mmm.html

Red Nichols and His Five Pennies.
Red Nichols (c) Leo McConville, Mannie Klein (t) Miff Mole (tb) Dudley  
Fosdick (mel) Fud Livingston (cl,ts) Joe Venuti (vln) Arthur Schutt  
(p) Eddie Lang (g) Art Miller (b) Chauncey Morehouse (d)
Recorded for Brunswick. New York, May 31, 1928.
     http://www.redhotjazz.com/rn5p.html

Unfortunately, Rhapsody does not cater for us aliens and, oddly, the  
Amazon mp3 'clip' clips the relevant introduction.
Now, for those non-US residents who may be interested, compare  
versions both from the above two links. Happy listening

And this may be my last opportunity to disagree with your claim  
(repeated on 23 August) that George Brunies influenced  Miff Mole:
"The Brunies influence is evident on Mole's Tin Roof Blues solo in  
1923. A virtual copy of an earlier Brunies solo on the same tune as a  
list mate pointed out." [That was me.]
Nonsense.   <grin>
As I tried to point out on 16 August, most of the contemporary  
versions of "Tin Roof Blues" were cover versions of the NORK original  
version. All the trombone players copied the Brunies' solo, as it was  
part of the tune.
I would be prepared to bet that the Melrose Bros. Music Co. Inc. stock  
sheet music included it.
[Audrey Van Dyke? Vince Giordano?].
I believe that you have, unfortunately, picked the wrong tune to prove  
your point.
I also doubt that in 1923 Miff Mole would have known who George  
Brunies was.
However, Brunies would most certainly have been listening to the  
numerous 1922 Original Memphis Five and Cotton Pickers records with  
the great Miff Mole.
Very kind regards,
Bill (ducking for cover to escape an irate Jack Mitchell).