[Dixielandjazz] Sacramento Jazz Festival set lengths revisited.

[Lowell Busching]

Sorry Bob. I guess I totally misread the question about set lengths at 
the Sacramento Jubilee (the correct name which he neglected to correct 
me on.).

I assumed it was a general question on the normal set lengths at the 
Jubilee for the use of those attending, rather then a ball park figure 
for the use of the leaders of the longer sets only.  I stand corrected.

Also I was not aware that Bob had not read the program yet in any form 
and was not aware that throughout the day, each day, there are continual 
1 hour sets, start time to start time, at the Crest Theater and other 
venues.

With the apparent, unwritten rule of a 20-30 minute break between sets 
for set up time, these shorter sets could not be more then 30-40 minutes 
in length, to allow for setups, getting food, drinks, etc. Something I 
am sure the musicians at least will look on with favor. 30 minutes of 
playing and 30 minutes of eating and drinking. Nirvana.

It will also keep the sound people from feeling rushed. Thanks again.

My experience is that not all leaders read their packets carefully 
enough to notice these changes from one venue to another. Assuming 90 
minute start to start times can and has lead to confusion in other years 
and other festivals. Especially when someone has posted a ball park 
figure of set lengths ahead of time.

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Lowell (Mad Dawg) Busching wrote in error:

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This is the first I knew it was an error. A general statement was made 
that I tried to clarify.

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even Bob Ringwald is not totally sure how long the sets should be.
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Wrong.

I was speaking of the sets that have start times spaced in 90 minutes.

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Where was that stated in the previous post Bob?  I thought it was a 
general question of playing time lengths at the Jubilee for both patrons 
and musicians?

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Those sets can be 60 to 70 minutes.

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This would imply 20-30  minute breaks, maximum, between sets. In well 
over 25 years personally I had never seen the set up time listed for the 
sound people. Thank you. They will now know when to tell the leaders to 
finish at the latest, and be vilified for doing so. :-) And verbally abused.

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That is what I said.  Why would Mad Dawg say that I am not sure?

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Because you were apparently not aware that there are many one hour 
start to start sets or you did not acknowledge them. 20-30 minute setups 
here also?  30-40 minute playing times?  Please clarify.

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Again,
60 - 70 minutes.  That gives the band time to get off the stage and pack 
up  and the next band 20 to 30 minutes to set up.

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I suggested from experience that 15 minutes was enough in most cases. I 
stand corrected again. Thank you Bob. 20 minutes minimum is a good 
compromise.

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  Also gives the fans time to get to a new venue and get seated, if they 
want to.  also gives them time to  get drinks, food, etc.

Again, 60 - 70 minutes, up to the band.

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Never heard that before. It would have been helpful to the sound people.

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No less than 60 and no more than 70.  And the band is expected to start 
on time.

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And the next band can only do this if the previous band is aware of the 
constraints. Your times will be helpful to all. Even the patrons.


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Again, I am not talking about shorter sets possibly at the Crest. 
Haven't looked at the schedule.  I am talking about the sets that have 
starting  times spaced 90 minutes apart.

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Thanks for that clarification. The one hour sets at the Crest and many 
other venues are a fact. All day, every day. They are more then 
possible. 30-40 minute playing times then. Correct?

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I hope I make myself clear.  Read my lips, "60 to 70 minutes."

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Read my program. There are many one hour sets at the Jubilee over the 
weekend. Part of the schedule. NOT exceptions. Both patrons and 
musicians should be totally aware. I tried to do this. I am sorry my 
intentions were misunderstood.

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BTW- Some folks like more time to get to new venues and to get drinks, 
food and to just stretch, while others like less time between sets.  You 
can't  please everyone no matter how hard you try.

--Bob Ringwald
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Thank you again Bob for all this clarification of your comments.

I will bring a book with me to read between sets as I attend once more 
as a patron of the arts.

Mad Dog