[Dixielandjazz] Bebe and Beebe
David Richoux
tubaman at tubatoast.com
Sat May 10 22:16:08 PDT 2008
My guess - and really a wild guess:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_William_Beebe
http://hometown.aol.com/chines6930/mw1/beebe1.htm
Right time frame, in the newspapers a lot, exotic, who knows!
Dave Richoux
On May 10, 2008, at 9:29 PM, Anton Crouch wrote:
> Hello all
>
> Thanks to Bill H we now know that Coslow & Silver's 1923 "Bebe" is a
> different composition to Jimmy Dorsey's 1929 "Beebe". I should have
> waited before sticking my foot in my mouth and concluding that they
> were
> the same.
>
> For the discographically inclined (all 4 of us), it can be noted that
> Robert Stockdale also gets it wrong in "Tommy Dorsey on the side",
> Scarecrow Press, 1995. The index of titles (page 414) shows Coslow &
> Silver as the composers of "Beebe".
>
> As an aside, does anyone agree with me that Bud Freeman's "The Eel" is
> similar to "Beebe"?
>
> But, to what do the names refer?
>
> "Bebe" could be a reference to the actress Bebe Daniels but, as
> Nancy G
> points-out, "bebe" is Spanish for "baby" and it is more likely that
> the
> song is about a girlfriend.
>
> "Beebe" is a mystery. I have Herb Sanford's "Tommy and Jimmy: the
> Dorsey
> years", Ian Allan, 1972 but the work has no title index and I haven't
> found any mention of "Beebe" in the text. This is not surprising
> because
> the book is rather scrappy in its handling of the years 1927 to 1934.
>
> Is "Beebe" a person or a place? If a person, he/she is presently
> unknown. I can find only one town named "Beebe" in the USA - Beebe,
> Arkansas. Did Jimmy Dorsey ever go there?
>
> A further aside - in numerous articles on Jimmy Dorsey on the web,
> there
> are references to the movie "Lost in Harlem". It's a typo which has
> (like a mutated gene) spread far. The correct title is "Lost in a
> harem"
> - an Abbott and Costello movie from 1944!
>
> All the best,
> Anton
>
>
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