[Dixielandjazz] Fw: C sax

[J. D. Bryce]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. D. Bryce" <brycejo at comcast.net>
To: "ballen" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] C sax


> I agree.  Cheap horns simply don't play well, even if they were made in
the
> 1920s.  I've owned and played both Martin and Buescher C melody horns.
Both
> were a bit stuffy, but had a decent voices.  I now play a Conn straight
> necked C melody from around 1922.  Nice horn.  Plays reasonably in tune,
but
> as has been mentioned, mouthpieces are a problem.  The old ones are too
> closed and I haven't been able to find a modern C mouthpiece that was
> sufficiently open for me.  I usually use an alto mouthpiece.
>
> J. Bryce
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ballen" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
> To: "Jack Bryce" <brycejo at comcast.net>
> Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] C sax
>
>
> > There is another thing to consider; when C melody horns were used
> commonly,
> > they were generally used by a small trio - piano, drums, sax - that
played
> > popular tunes in hotel lobbies and that sort of thing - not the most
> > challenging gig in the world. They were made so that a musician could
look
> > over the piano player's shoulder and play the melody right off of the
> sheet
> > music without having to transpose. So they may not have belonged to the
> most
> > demanding musicians in the world.
> >
> > Also, at that time the saxophone was a popular instrument that ALL kids
> > wanted to play - kind of like the guitar is today. So a lot of cheap
> > saxophones were turned out to meet the demand, just  like cheap guitars
> are
> > turned out today. So many C melody saxes are NOT of the highest quality.
> >
> > Just because a horn is OLD doesn't make it VALUABLE - or even very good.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
<larrys.bands at charter.net>
> > To: "ballen" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
> > Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] C sax
> >
> >
> > > I forgot about that and you are right about the mouthpieces.  I don't
> > think
> > > you can buy a modern mouthpiece for a C so you have to take what you
can
> > get
> > > or whatever comes with the horn.  Some of that unique sound comes from
> old
> > > stuffy mouthpieces usually made from hard rubber which produces a
> > different
> > > sound than plastic or metal.  I think reeds are hard to come by too.
> > >
> > > Modern saxes have dozens of brands to select from as well as eight to
> ten
> > > different tip openings and other characteristics such as Jazz or
classic
> > > chambers.
> > > Larry
> > > St.L
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "ballen" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
> > > To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> > > Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] C sax
> > >
> > >
> > > >I recently got a C melody which was through Katrina and was
COMPLETELY
> > > > rebuilt, looks like a new horn.
> > > >
> > > > I like it, it plays better in tune than my tenor (also a New Orleans
> > > > horn).
> > > >
> > > > I believe that the problem w/ most C melodies is that they are being
> > > > played
> > > > with either tenor or alto mpcs, if used with a correct mpc they
should
> > not
> > > > be any more out of tune than a comparable quality alto or tenor.
> > > >
> > > > My opinion, your mileage may vary
> > > > bill allen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "PHIL WILKING" <philwilking at bellsouth.net>
> > > > To: "Mr. Bill" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
> > > > Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:22 PM
> > > > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] C sax
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Is it true that most C saxophones are not in tune at one or the
other
> > end
> > > > of
> > > >> the register?
> > > >>
> > > >> Phil Wilking
> > > >>
> > > >> Those who would exchange freedom for
> > > >> security deserve neither freedom nor security.
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
> > <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It's interesting how much C saxes bring today.  >
> > > >>
> > > >>
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