[Dixielandjazz] Artist Demographics.
Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis
larrys.bands at charter.net
Fri Jun 13 13:39:56 PDT 2008
It wouldn't blow my mind at all.
snip "Musicians" who play for little or nothing deserve their pittance.
I wouldn't care what anyone gets except that it damages all musicians and me
personally when people are giving away what I am trying to sell.
For you civil war buffs this is the exact same reason why the workers in the
North couldn't tolerate slavery and why you can't have it in a free
enterprise system.
The exact same forces are at work in the music community today. You have
one group trying to sell their labor and talent at a fair price while there
are those who are giving it away free and are slaves to their desire to be
cool.
Larry
STL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen G Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
Cc: "1-DIXIELAND JAZZ POST" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Artist Demographics.
>
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis
> wrote:
>
>> snip -There are 140,000 singers/musicians in the USA according to census
>> statistics.
>>
>> yeah and they are all in St. Louis working for drinks..............
>>
>> Speaking of that I got a call from a friend who was called by a local
>> Big band. They are working a gig in Indianapolis (248 miles). The pay
>> is $125. Now let's see how that works out. The drive is about 4 hours
>> one way and the gig is three hours. That comes to 11 hours and maybe
>> they will want to eat along the way. So that puts us up to about 12
>> hours then there is setup. Roughly dividing that it comes to $10 an
>> hour. Never mind the $100 or so in gas money. Let's hope they car
>> pool.
>>
>> Holy Cow, what are musicians thinking? My advice - Get a life!!! No
>> wonder they are out beating the bushes to find subs for this gig. The
>> leader of this band is a retired Doctor. I just can't believe that he
>> would ask people to take this kind of work but then there are
>> politicians that don't know how much a loaf of bread costs either. The
>> sad thing is that this band is pretty good and shouldn't have to go hat
>> in hand begging for scraps.
>>
>> My friend didn't take the gig. I am breathlessly waiting for my call.
>> Larry
>
> I hear you Larry.
>
> I just booked a gig 246 miles from home, a distance we rarely travel. It
> is a High Society Wedding in Southampton, Long Island on the Atlantic
> Ocean this fall. I won't tell you what we are getting because it would
> blow your mind, but I will tell you about the travel expenses. We will
> take 2 vehicles.
>
> They are $300 per vehicle, plus $60 for tolls.
>
> 1st Class Hotel Rooms on the Ocean (singles) No round trip the same night
> for us.
>
> $75 per man meal allowance for the trip. Plus dinner and drinks at the
> reception at the band table which will be in the midst of the other
> guests..
>
> In other words, what we make at the gig, we NET. Plus, I expect a
> substantial tip which has happened historically with these type gigs.
>
> This is one of those gigs where we will be treated as guests because I
> shmooze our clients, treating them as equals. (Been doing that ever since
> Henry Ford 2nd sat in and sang "Up The Lazy Liver" with me at a party my
> band was playing 50 years ago) The bride and groom are in their early
> 30s and currently working in the Philadelphia area, but she is from a
> Long Island family.
>
> Music will be Condon Style Dixieland. Plus some Small Band Swing
>
> Gig came about because of an 80th Birthday Party we did at a large home
> in the Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia. (Old Money) Once the old
> folks, who enjoyed it immensely, left at 10 PM, the younger set danced
> their shoes off, past midnight in a large room cleared for dancing, to
> the music you can hear on our myspace page. And you can bet we played
> loudly. Prospective bride loved it, hence the wedding booking.
>
> There are lots of these type gigs for us in our area and I suspect the
> same is true in every large city in the USA. We seek them out, find
> them, and seem to be moving in social circles that are totally ignored by
> most OKOM bands.
>
> "Musicians" who play for little or nothing deserve their pittance. IMO,
> OKOM bands that cannot find a young audience for this music are neither
> looking hard enough, nor in the right places.
>
> It all starts with realizing that jazz musicians are creatures of
> wonderment to the rich and anonymous. They seek you out and once you
> become a part of their "art" world, you get all sorts of gigs, and royal
> treatment, because of who they think YOU are.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
> www.barbonestreet.com
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
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