[Dixielandjazz] N.O. jazz, Chicago jazz, New York jazz

Marek Boym marekboym at gmail.com
Wed Apr 9 10:16:32 PDT 2008


How did you infer THAT?
I gave the shortest possible description, on the assumption that the
"flow of influence" (true or false is another matter) was known to
all.
Cheers

On 09/04/2008, Ulf Jagfors <ulf.jagfors at telia.com> wrote:
> Hmmm
> Very strange post indeed
> Do you really mean that the black N.O musicians had no influence on the
> Chicago style. Sounds like me to be the same idea that the white invented
> the banjo, or have I completly misunderstood something here?
> Ulf
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marek Boym" <marekboym at gmail.com>
> To: "Ulf Jagfors" <ulf.jagfors at telia.com>
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>
>
>
> > To say the truth, I believe the differences irrelevant, if really
> > existing.  however, theoretically, at least, New Orleans was a
> > "collective" style, with breaks rather than solos.
> > Chicago was the style developed by the "Austin High" gang, even if
> > some of them never attended taht school, nor were real Chicagoans.
> > These include Frank Teschmaker, Bud Freeman, Mezz Meaarow, Jimmy
> > McPartland, Muggsy Spanier, Joe and Marty Marsala, Eddie Condon, and
> > later - Pee Wee Russell, Jack Teagarden  and Wild Bill Davison.  Their
> > playing was much more soloist oriented, and they sometimes replaced
> > the trombone with tenor sax, or used both.  Perhaps Bix, too, should
> > be included, as The Wolverines recorded in Chicago (actually -
> > Richmond, Indiana).  Black jazz from Chicago was referred to as "South
> > Side Chicago."
> > New York, too, was a "white" style, supposed not to be as hot as
> > Chicago, its best known representatives being Red Nichols, Miff Mole,
> > Phil Napoleon, Joe Venuti, etc.
> > Of course, in fact, they all blended together, as New York recordings
> show.
> > I hope this slightly clarifies the issue.
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > On 09/04/2008, JDut953944 at aol.com <JDut953944 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Could someone explain to me the difference between the three?  I was
> asked
> > > that question yesterday and I didn't have a clue, except I know that
> N.O. was
> > > first.
> > >
> > > Carol, Clarinet
> > >
> > >
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