[Dixielandjazz] Sticking it to the schdule.

Fri Sep 14 15:07:09 PDT 2007

 I am reading George Wein's autobiography . .. Lots of good stuff in there
about some OKOM people like Wild Bill, Vic Dickinson, etc. Wein talks about
the Newport Jazz Festival that was the big breakthrough for that event when
Duke Ellington totally ignored Wein's frantic attempts to get him to end the
finale set and went on to higher and greater musical heights until the
audience almost exploded. Then, he brought it back down and finally closed
the set in his own good time . . . creating a memorable musical event.

Regards,

Tom Duncan
Doctor Dubious and the Agnostics
PO Box 2118      Teaneck, NJ 07666
P   (201)836-6076     FAX   (201)833-4143
www.doctordubious.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
[mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Marek Boym
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:31 PM
To: Tom Duncan
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Sticking it to the schdule.

Back in 1972 I attended a "Giants of Jazz" concert at the Mann Auditorium in
Tel-Aviv: Dizzy Gillespie, Sonny Stitt, Kay Winding, Monk, Al McKibbon and
Art Blakey - all seasoned pros.  Luckily, I attended the matinee.  They did
not end on time.  Frantic stage managers started running around, waving at
the band like crazy - to no avail!  The band was extatic, and would not stop
playing!  By the time the evening show was scheduled to start, we were still
in - listening to one of the best performances of my life!  I wonder whether
the early evening show's audience enjoyed the show - these people were very
nervous still standing by the door at the time teir show should have been on
for over 15 minutes.

A similar thing happened at a Buddy Tate-Benny waters show at the Edinburgh
Jazz Festival in 1984 - the band felt real good and kept playing long past
its scheduled time, to the great chagrine of stage hands (but causing us
great happiness).  Again - seasoned pros!
Cheers
Support live jazz!

On 14/09/2007, Bill Allen <ballen at deltapathology.com> wrote:
> I've seen bands given the "last song" warning, and, as soon as that 
> last song ends, an announcer immediately comes on and says, "Let's 
> hear it for the ___________ Band" and pulls the plug.
>
> I've had a bigger problem with being rushed during sound check - I've 
> learned to STAND MY GROUND and not begin until I'm confident every 
> member of the band has has a good sound check.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lowell Busching" <verbose at daktel.com>
> To: "Mr. Bill" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
> Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:48 PM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Sticking it to the schdule.
>
>
> >   A slight modification to the thread subject.
> >
> > With Steve commenting on using stage managers, I am sure he read in 
> > Stan's post how at the Sweet and Hot festival, Stan and I in our 
> > room act as the stage manager, as well as the actual Room manager. 
> > Between us the groups get plenty of 5 and 10 minute warnings. It 
> > does normally work well as Bob says in Sacramento also, if in the 
> > larger venues the band can see the signs from the back. The only 
> > "mistake" is that the person holding the sign or making the signal, 
> > seldom comes up to the stage where near sighted leaders can see 
> > them.  Stage fright I guess, which is why the sound people at least 
> > at some venues cue them also. Occasionally conflicts of interest, but
minor.
> >
> > Despite the generally "conscientious" band leaders, even at 10 AM 
> > when the crack schedulers have had them playing also the LAST set of 
> > the previous evening, they sometimes are not totally aware of how 
> > much time they have left. Some sort of stage manager, (attractive 
> > young ladies like Steve always seems to get or not) are a necessity.  
> > Unfortunately in our case "we" are usually quite elderly men.  Some 
> > bands have all the luck.  Some don't.
> >
> >   Bob Ringwald adds:
> >
> > At the Sacramento Jazz Jubilee, we  have over 100 bands with 33 
> > stages going from 10:00 AM to aprox 11:00 PM for 3 days and 10:00 AM 
> > to 4:00 PM on Mondays.
> >
> > The times in 34 years that we have had trouble with bands going 
> > overtime could be counted on one hand
> >
> > snip.
> >
> >
> > The problem is, who's counting?  Actually quite true. Most sites do 
> > keep to close schedules at the Jubilee because people ARE assigned 
> > to try and see that they stick to a schedule.  Those festivals that 
> > trust only the musicians to police themselves, might have problems. 
> > They are into the music, not the time quite often.  Trying to 
> > squeeze their whole program in. Most like to be reminded. Some consider
us a pain in the a**.
> >
> > Bob says.
> >
> > The bands are very conscientious.  They know that if they play 
> > overtime, it takes time away from the next band.
> >
> > snip
> >
> > Some individual musicians do not always think of that, however.
> >
> > Bob Says:
> >
> > Someone is given the job to warn the bands when they have 10-minutes.
> > It all works like clockwork.
> >
> >
> > snip
> >
> >
> > As well it should. Synchronize your watches.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Mad dog
> >
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