[Dixielandjazz] The 'not so authentic' 20s music

Phil O'Rourke philor at webone.com.au
Mon May 14 23:40:54 PDT 2007


Bob

We get the message!

We get the message!

We get the message!

Phil O'Rourke
Australia



> ALOHArose at aol.com wrote:
>
>  In a message dated 5/14/07 10:46:04 AM,Bob Ringwald writes:
>
> > It has been so many years since the "Roaring 20s" that none of the songs
> > have to be authentic 1920. They just have to sound like they are.
> >
> > --Bob Ringwald
> (snip)
>
>
> YOU CANT MEAN THAT!!!   What a specious assessment/dumbed down idea. Your
> comment provides only a hairbreath distinction between authentic and
'sounds
> like'.
> (snip)
>
> Dear Rose? (I am guessing that your name is Rose?  You did not sign your
> post to
> DJML).
>
> Regarding my statement above.I was responding to the gentleman in New
> Zeeland
> who asked for (as I
> remember) 1920 gangster tunes.  I have been a professional musician for 50
> years.  If I were going to play
> for a 1920s style gangster party, I gave him the advice that I would use
> myself.  When you are playing these kinds of parties, it is only important
> that you provide the atmosphere that the client wants.  He is usually not
> interested in songs such as "Skip The Gutter" or "2 Duces."  he/she wants
to
> hear songs such as Bill Baily, Tiger Rag, etc. . . . Songs that he/she
> recognizes, and that give the idea of a 1920 sound.  .
>
> If in this case it is a gangster party, he/she wants to hear songs that
> remind the party goers of the gangsters in Chicago, etc.
>
> You say:
>
> (snip)
> you want to bring the kids to this?
> (snip)
>
> I don't remember anything about kids in his request.  Did I miss
something?
>
>  I understood it to be some sort of theme party.
>
> If there were kids involved, I'd do the same thing.  Unless it was an
> instructional concert.  Then of course I would be authentic and talk about
> the history of Jazz and the players.  But I did not understand his request
> to say anything about kids.
>
> Unfortunately, I have deleted his original message so I cannot re-read it
to
> see if I missed something about kids.
>
>
> You also wrote:
>
> (snip)
> And this from the guy who is so meticulous about subject lines!
> (snip)
>
> When you posted a message with a subject line that did not reflect the
> subject of the text, I wrote a very polite note reminding you to put a
> correct subject line on your posts to DJML.  I did this privately and
> politely, not like your very public post back to me.
>
> We have over 550 members on DJML.  Most of who never post to the List.
> However, they do read the posts.  The overwhelming majority of them want
> correct subjects on the messages .
>
> A lot of people are very busy and just skim the subject lines --
Especially
> the ones who get the digest format.  If the subject line is incorrect, or
> nonexistent, then it wastes people's time opening a message that they do
not
> want to read.  Or, they miss a message that they do want to read.
>
> It is just plain courtesy to title your posts with the correct subject
line.
> I am surprised that you used that private request to flame me publicly.
>
> Courtesy is like opening the door for someone or picking up something that
> someone
> dropped, and handing it to them.
>
> On the Internet, it is called "Netiquette.
>
> The following is from the DJML FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) at
>
> http://www.islandnet.com/djml/faq.html
>
> (snip)
> 25.  What is "Netiquette?"
>
> "Netiquette" is etiquette on the Internet including electronic mail.  It
> is nothing more than simple common courtesy, common sense and
consideration
> for others.
> (snip)
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> --Bob Ringwald
> DJML Moderator
>
>
>
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