[Dixielandjazz] Clarinet Tuning

Wed Jun 13 08:54:45 PDT 2007

Of all the adjustable barrels the Click is the best mechanically.  There is 
one that screws in and out but I didn't like the wiggle it had.  The cheaper 
click barrel doesn't lock and after awhile will get loose and has to be 
readjusted every time you play and can slip in and out making you into a 
very high pitched trombone.  Another thing the plastic ring on the bottom 
can come off and the barrel can crack.  Mine did.  It's very thin plastic on 
the lower end.  The more expensive one with the metal locking rings is worth 
the extra price.

One thing though, the little adjusting knurled roller is kind of hard to use 
but manageable.

I think they are pretty good and don't seem to do anything to the sound so 
the bore must match my clarinet fairly close anyway.
Larry
St. Louis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russ Guarino" <russg at redshift.com>
To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Clarinet Tuning

> Just a note about the "Click" barrel.
>
> My Selmer 10G was also flat.  I got the click barrel and the problem was 
> fixed.  It did not hurt my tone.   As a matter of fact, I
> feel the tone, if anything, was slightly improved.
>
> Russ Guarino
>
> "J. D. Bryce" wrote:
>
>> The choice of instruments is a very personal one.  I'm a Buescher 400 
>> freak.
>> I play a 1952 400 tenor and a 1949 400 alto.  My son on the other hand,
>> doesn't care for  my Bueschers.  He loves his 1964 King Super 20 tenor 
>> and
>> the Selmer Mark VI alto.
>>
>> I've favored Brilhart mouthpieces for decades.  Tonalin 6 or 7 on 
>> clarinet
>> and Brilhart Levelaire 6 or 7 on alto and tenor.  I find that the 
>> Levelaires
>> don't handle altissimo as well as some other makes, so I make be 
>> switching.
>>
>> Times change and I guess we do too.  But the choice of horn and setup is
>> totally personal! Like you guys don't know this!
>>
>> Jack Bryce
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
>> To: "Jack Bryce" <brycejo at comcast.net>
>> Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Clarinet Tuning
>>
>> > Well mine isn't 100% either but it's manageable.  I forgot to add that 
>> > I
>> > eventually had my Selmer barrel cut down which is a whole lot cheaper 
>> > than
>> a
>> > click barrel and is better for the sound.
>> >
>> > Instruments like mouthpieces have to fit you.  I have played horns that
>> > others rave about and can't see much to them.  That's why I still play 
>> > on
>> a
>> > Conn 10 M tenor rather than a Selmer or Custom Yamaha.  I really like
>> Yamaha
>> > for the most part but I still cling to the Conn and have never replaced
>> it.
>> > You might very well have played on an instrument and someone else play 
>> > it
>> > differently.  I am convinced that what you do inside of your mouth, 
>> > tongue
>> > placement and bone structure make a difference as to how a particular 
>> > horn
>> > plays for you or in some cases don't.
>> >
>> > I don't think that it's very productive to copy what someone else does
>> with
>> > mouthpieces etc because it's a combination that works for you.  Horns 
>> > play
>> > their part too.  I have played several high end clarinets and didn't 
>> > like
>> > them as much as my 10G or my Bundy for that matter.
>> >
>> > Speaking of my Bundy.  If I didn't have a lot of money I would look up 
>> > an
>> > older Selmer Bundy.  I don't think you can beat one unless you spend a
>> whole
>> > lot of money.  At least on mine the intonation is pretty good and it 
>> > has a
>> > whole lot of volume with pretty good tone.  I kind of like the key 
>> > layout
>> > too.
>> > Larry
>> > St. Louis
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Steve Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
>> > To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
>> > Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:18 PM
>> > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Clarinet Tuning
>> >
>> >
>> > > Larry - <larrys.bands at charter.net> wrote (polite snip)
>> > >
>> > >> Just a note on my Selmer G10.  When I started playing the instrument 
>> > >> I
>> > >> noticed that it was flat throughout the range.  I was a little
>> surprised
>> > >> since I had the original barrel joint and it appeared to be way too
>> long.
>> > >> I
>> > >> tried several things and I remembered I had a Click Barrel that they
>> had
>> > >> sent me to review when the thing first came out.  It worked shoved 
>> > >> all
>> > >> the
>> > >> way in.  I eventually bought the better Click Barrel and used it for
>> some
>> > >> time.  The instrument played really well and I had no significant
>> > >> intonation
>> > >> problems from the short barrel.
>> > >
>> > > Hey Larry,
>> > >
>> > > My Selmer 10G was also a little flat, especially in the upper 
>> > > register.
>> > > What
>> > > I did was go to as Moening barrel 2 mm shorter than the Selmer Barrel
>> that
>> > > came with the horn. Now the upper register is spot on, though the top
>> > > notes
>> > > in the lower have become slightly sharp. So I lip them down a bit. 
>> > > (from
>> D
>> > > upwards to Bb) I also think the Moening changed my sound and volume 
>> > > for
>> > > the
>> > > better, though the classical clarinet mavens think a brand switch on 
>> > > the
>> > > barrel is akin to heresy.
>> > >
>> > > Clarinets are funny beasts. I have yet to play a clarinet that is 
>> > > 100%
>> in
>> > > tune with itself. And I always had a bit of trouble playing jazz on 
>> > > my
>> > > 1952
>> > > Buffet. After Katrina, I sent it to Sue Loerchen, who presented it to
>> Tom
>> > > Fisher. Saw him recently on YouTube and with what looked like my 
>> > > trusty
>> > > Buffet. He makes is sound a lot better than I ever could. :-) VBG
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
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