In a message dated 6/4/2007 6:15:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dixielandjazz-request at ml.islandnet.com writes: YES, Mr Fowlkes, the sting IS thus withdrawn Naaa...the sting stays when the barb is 'withdrawn'. Ben Fowlkes, old fogy in Sacramento ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.