[Dixielandjazz] Louis Jordan, Prima, Herman

Charles Suhor csuhor at zebra.net
Mon Jan 29 19:44:33 PST 2007

Woody was shamefully glossed over on Burns' jazz series. Not a very 
creative soloist himself, but what and talents he developed, and what 
bands he had! Another up-tempo exciter was "Keeper of the Flame" 
(follows changes to "I Found a New Baby") with Lamond again and 
brilliant bari sax by Serge Chalof and other nonstop soloists.

Charlie Suhor

On Jan 29, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Hal Vickery wrote:

> There's a great cover of Herman's "Caldonia" that I have on an old 
> Everest
> LP of a reunion of former Herd members.  As I recall, the pace was 
> even more
> frenetic than the original.  I also had the pleasure of hearing Herman 
> live
> as late as the '80s where the tempo was almost obscenely fast.  
> Amazing to
> hear.
> Hal Vickery
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> Suhor
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> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Louis Jordan, Prima, Herman
> On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Steve Barbone wrote:
>> All of us kids, musicians and hipsters back in the late 40s, early 50s
>> loved
>> this music, the way it was presented and the sexy dancing that went
>> with it.
>> At the end of WW 2, how could one not like it? Wine, women & song were
>> back
>> again after some hard times in the depression, and then the World War.
>> Prima and Jordan were no fools. They swung like crazy and produced 
>> some
>> really great dance music and entertained their audiences. No wonder
>> the kids
>> left Dixieland for R & B and then R & R.
> Yes, the "jump" shuffle beat patented by Jordan was a great lift and a
> great gift. What R&B added via Earl Palmer and others was a heavy
> backbeat to intensify the pulse. Too bad it became an automatic
> pile-driving effect, like someone shooting a pistol on 2 & 4.
> I felt that Prima's shuffles had more of a manic energy whereas
> Jordan's was relaxed and well suited to the hip humor and bluesy
> feeling he generated. Two of my favorites were the classic "Let the
> Good Times Roll," plus a calypso number called "Run, Joe" and the
> pre-rap rap "Beware," with advice to guys about how to psych out
> feminist wiles.
> Re "Caldonia," one of the great stunts in jazz was Woody Herman's
> record of it--after Jordan's hit but not a "cover" of it. It's a
> superfast tempo with Woody singing in his own humorous way while the
> band cooks like mad behind Don Lamond's totally hot drums. Not to
> missed, and once heard, not to be forgotten.
> Charlie Suhor
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