[Dixielandjazz] Modern Banjo was Wynton's Wild Man Blues

Thu Feb 1 09:22:17 PST 2007

More authentic?  What's more authentic than a tenor
banjo?  Who would want to de-tune an instrument to a
range it's not supposed to play in the first place? 
And a 6 string banjo IS a banjo, designed for guitar
players who needed to fit in at a time when the four
string banjo was the rhythm instrument of choice and
one of the most popular instruments in the country. 
Personally, I don't listen to Dixieland bands that
don't have a banjoist-it's just not real.  The whole
idiom is losing its heritage fast.

Bob Blomberg

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>    1. Re: Cherokee (Robert S. Ringwald)
>    2. Re: Zulu's Ball (Bob Romans)
>    3. Other Virtuoso Cherokees (Steve Barbone)
>    4. Floyd Levin RIP (Richard Broadie)
>    5. Floyd Levin RIP (Richard Broadie)
>    6. wierd stuff (Richard Broadie)
>    7. Re: Modern Banjo was Wynton's Wild Man Blues
> (John McClernan)
>    8. Re: Cherokee (Gluetje1 at aol.com)
>    9. Re: Cherokee (Bob Romans)
>   10. Youtube condon, davison et. al clips. (Craig
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>   11. Re: Cherokee (Gluetje1 at aol.com)
>   12. Re: Other Virtuoso Cherokees (Bill Haesler)
>   13. Re: Cherokee (Craig I. Johnson)
>   14. Re: Cherokee (Gluetje1 at aol.com)
>   15. Buddy Bolden Revival Orchestra Concert (D and
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>   16. Any Listmates in the Buffalo NY area? (Robert
> S. Ringwald)
>   17. Re: "Everybody Stomp" (was Great tune.) (Bill
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:01:02 -0800
> From: "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Cherokee
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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>  Randy Fendrick wrote:
> 
>  >I like the Cherokee with GRP Big Band and Arturo
> Sandoval, Chuck 
> > Findley, Randy Brecker and Byron what-ever his
> last name is .  
> > Absolutely smokes downloaded it and put on my IPOD
> and took it to the 
> > gig last Saturday night,  Trpt players were
> weeping!  Great to watch 
> > them cry!
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twKzRzcd744
> (snip)
> 
> I agree, fanominal!!!
> 
> --Bob Ringwald
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:30:00 -0800
> From: "Bob Romans" <cellblk7 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Zulu's Ball
> To: "Bill Haesler" <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>,
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> Well, that settles THAT!
> It's a great tune...I think!
> I heard that there is only one record extant...is
> that right?
> Warmest regards,
> Bob Romans,
> 1617 Lakeshore Drive,
> Lodi, Calif., 95242
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Haesler" <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> To: "Bob Romans" <cellblk7 at comcast.net>; "dixieland
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Zulu's Ball
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> 
> >> How many recordings are there of Zulu's Ball?
> >
> > Dear Bob,
> > From the 1920s Classic period - only one!
> > Recorded for Gennett in Richmond, Indiana by King
> Oliver and His Creole 
> > Jazz
> > Band on 5 Oct 1923.
> > At least a dozen other versions have been
> attempted by revivalist bands 
> > from
> > the 1950s on.
> > And whoever said "It has King Oliver's cornet solo
> copied...mistakes and
> > all" can go and stand in the Naughty Corner.
> > NOW.
> > What mistakes???
> > What sacrilege!
> > Besides, there is no Oliver solo. Or any others!
> > The original performance is entirely ensemble.
> > Kind regards,
> > Bill.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:42:34 -0500
> From: Steve Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Other Virtuoso Cherokees
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> Glad some like Wynton's Cherokee. I posted it to
> show the broad spectrum of
> jazz that he enjoys. Yessir, the man is a player.
> 
> I always loved Clifford Brown's Cherokee. Here is a
> strange video of Arturo
> Sandoval in Madrid with something similar to it.
> This contains some of the 4
> (or 5) part harmonic version that Sandoval did a la
> Les Paul after scripting
> Clifford's solo. (about 2:30 into the video)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOuHuDRblfE
> 
> Bill, if you listen to the above it will test your
> ears too, however the
> harmonic structure is simpler than what Wynton did.
> 
> For the adventurous there is also an Adam Makowicz
> UTube (who said Polish
> jazz musicians can't play?) with Phil Woods at the
> Jacksonville Jazz
> Festival in 1985. List to the speed at which the
> bass player, Ray Drummond
> plays. Woods is no slouch either. Listen to the Bird
> quotes at the very end.
> Kind of a tribute I guess.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SciDywcBp8&NR
> 
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:02:00 -0800
> From: "Richard Broadie" <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Floyd Levin RIP
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