[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 56, Issue 31

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>   1. Upcoming Sweet and Hot Festival. labor Day weekend. LAX
>      Marriott (Lowell Busching)
>   2. Unknown lady clarinet player on the streets of New Orleans
>      (Marcel Joly)
>   3. Re: peoria (tduncan)
>   4. Re: What is Jazz? (Marek Boym)
>   5. Re: RadioOKOM. (David Richoux)
>   6. Re: RadioOKOM. (Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon)
>   7. Re: What is Jazz? (RICK KNITTEL)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:51:13 -0500
> From: Lowell Busching <verbose at daktel.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Upcoming Sweet and Hot Festival. labor Day
> weekend. LAX Marriott
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com, "Robert S. Ringwald"
> <robert at ringwald.com>
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> In the even that no one else has posted this potential list of
> participants at the Sweet and Hot Jazz festival at the LAX Marriott
> hotel over the 4 day Labor Day weekend, here is the list of performers
> or groups as listed in the current Rag Newspapers
>
> A badge for the entire weekend is now $95. Patron Badges are now $270
> The basic phone number is Lil at 818-461-9260 or visit their web site at
> http://www.sweethot.org. Recorded info at 818-363-1611
>
> This is not a paid announcement. I help with the sound in the Hangover
> Room at the festival. Aug 31, Sept 1,2, & 3. Come one. Come all.
>
> The scheduled performers in alphabetical order are:
>
> Howard Alden, John Altman, Brian Atkinson, Dan Barrett, Vince Bartels,
> Gil Bernal, Sean Callery, John Cocuzzi, Chris Dawson, Frank DeVito,
> Bob Draga, Isla Eckinger, Eddie Erickson, Joel Forbes, Jim Galloway,
> Paul Gormley, Jake Hanna, Marty Harris, Bob Havens, Chuck Hedges,
> Eddie Higgins, Rebecca Kilbore, Marilyn King, Dave Koonse,
> Jennifer Leitham, Dan Levinson, Gildo Mahones, Sam Most, Donny Osborne,
> Russ Phillips, Polly Podewell, Ed Polcer, Randy Reinhart,
> Terri Richards, Roger Neumann, Tommy Saunders, Dick Shanahan,
> Richard Simon, Derek Smith, Hal Smith, Putter Smith, Dave Stone,
> James Torme, Allan Vache, Johnny Varro, Scott Whitfield,
> Welsa Whitfield, Yve Evans, Pat Yankee and Barry Zweig.
>
> Although not listed in the list of artists above, Jack Sheldon is listed
> both with his California Cool Quartet and featuring, The Jack Sheldon
> Orchestra in Concert.
>
> Other featured artists are:
>
> Herb Jeffries in concert, Banu Gibson & the New Orleans Hot Jazz,
> Ernie Andrews sings, The Hues Corporation sings, "Mills Bros" with
> John Mills & Elmer Hopper, "The Vintage Ball" with Dean Mora's
> Orchestra, James Torme Vocal Artistry, Johnny Vana's "Big Band Alumni"
> and Marilyn King "Tribute To King Sisters".
>
> Other Bands are:
>
> B. E. D, Big Mana Sue, Cornet Chop Suey, Carl Sonny Leland Trio,
> Chicago Six, Dan Levinson Trio, Igor's Jazz Cowboys,
> Janet Klein & her Parlour boys, Jazz America Class of 2007,
> Jennifer Leitham Trio, Jonathan Stout Orchestra,
> Louis Thomas' "Pieces of Eight", James Torme Trio, Page Cavanaugh Trio,
> Roger Neumann Quartet, Welsa Whitfield Trio, Yankee Wailers,
> Yoshio Toyama & the Saints, & Yve Evans Quartet.
>
> Special Events are"
>
> James Torme Reunion Band, "Swing's the Thing" Dance with Jonathan Stout,
> Rebecca Kilgore Sings, "Blues a Plenty", Dance with Pieces of Eight,
> Diva Summit, Divo Mini Summit, "Sensual & Latin" with Gil Bernal,
> Wesla Whitfield Sings, "Lionel, Red & Bunny" with Ed Polcer, "Pianorama"
> hosted by Yve Evans, Pat Yankee performs "Saloon Songs",
> Robert Rockabrand "Music of Duke Ellington", Polly Podewell Sings,
> Midnight lobby jams and much more!
>
> Something for just about everyone on the list I believe. No, the 3
> Smiths are not brothers, but if they should play together (Piano, bass &
> Drums as it turns out.), cough drops will be issued upon entry.  Anyone
> caught coughing during their performance will be asked to leave as it
> would be bad for the publicity.
>
> If you should make it into the Hangover Room, stop and say hi either to
> myself or Stan Brager, a member of the DJML. One of us WILL be on duty
> at the sound board. We do not trust anyone else, or at least I don't!
> Enjoy your weekend. "Sounds" like fun.
>
> Lowell aka Mad Dog.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:14:17 +0200
> From: Marcel Joly <marcel.joly at telenet.be>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Unknown lady clarinet player on the streets
> of New Orleans
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> The name of the unknown lady clarinet player on the streets of New
> Orleans is most probably Doreen Ketchens. As far as I know she and her
> husband make a decent living playing on the streets and selling their
> many CDs.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcel
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:39:50 -0400
> From: tduncan <tduncan at bellatlantic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] peoria
> To: 'eupher dude' <eupher61 at hotmail.com>
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> Tom Duncan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of eupher dude
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:56 PM
> To: Tom Duncan
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] peoria
>
> OK...I probably will get chided and ridiculed for this...
>
> But...
>
> (And, while I know this has been done before on DJML, the lack of search 
> in
> the archives makes it easier to ask)
>
> Peoria lyrics.
>
> I know the basic "SOS..." and "Dan the married man"  and most of "Dr 
> Black,
> Dr White, Drs Smith and Jones" (can anyone please finish after "nurses 
> here,
> nurses there....????)
>
> But I also know there are literally HUNDREDS of verses that have been made
> up, often spontaneously, for the tune.  I just want to "hear" more of 
> them.
>
> If you want to send me your "Peoria" verses off-line, I can compile them 
> and
> put them in an appropriate place...er, make them available on a website.
>
> And, while I'm pushing the limits of taste anyway, how about extra verses
> for "St James Infirmary".  I normally do 8 or so, and I know there are 
> many
> more of those also.
>
> thanks...I think
>
>
> steve
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:06:26 +0300
> From: "Marek Boym" <marekboym at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] What is Jazz?
> To: "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>,
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> Play - or sing?  The latter is easy, as in his last years he could
> only sing, and on some songs was not even accompanied by a jazz band.
> Play - I guess you're right.  Louis (and Hodges) could play a melody
> straight and still make it  sound like jazz.
> Cheers
>
>
> On 17/08/07, Robert S. Ringwald <robert at ringwald.com> wrote:
>> Someone wrote:
>>
>> >>> Some, like Armstrong, played the same solo over and over. Is that 
>> >>> Jazz?
>>
>> Steve Barbone answered:
>> >>> Sure, if the listener wants it to be.
>>
>>
>> I wrote:
>> >> As far as I am concerned, it is not up to the listener to decide 
>> >> whether
>> >> Armstrong's repeated solos were  Jazz.  Even if they were repeated 
>> >> time
>> >> after time, they were still Jazz.
>> >>
>> >> Even though he may have played the same solos, there was always 
>> >> something
>> >> a
>> >> little different about them.  He was not playing in a symphony 
>> >> orchestra,
>> >> trying to play the exact same way every time.  he was improvising on 
>> >> his
>> >> own
>> >> solos.
>>
>>
>> Steve wrote:
>> > hey Bob:
>> >
>> > Didn't you, as the listener, just define jazz above? If not, who? 
>> > <grin>.
>> >>From my point of view as a listener, not everything Louis did was jazz.
>>
>>
>> I reply:
>> Touch?.
>>
>> However, regarding your comment, "From my point of view as a listener, 
>> not
>> everything Louis did was jazz.", IMO regardless of who Louis recorded 
>> with,
>> no matter in what setting, no matter what style the band was playing, he
>> always played Jazz.
>>
>>  If you disagree, please point out on which recording he did not play 
>> Jazz.
>>
>> --Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:51:28 -0700
> From: David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] RadioOKOM.
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> I think you must have miss-read something - most stations that do
> internet broadcasts stream current programs, maybe at most  a few
> seconds delay from the "on-the-air" program.
>
> KFJC is still working on having archive shows, but some stations have
> the disc space (and "'bleep' the RIAA attitude") to also have music
> program archives available. WFMU New York/New Jersey in particular
> keeps their shows available for months after they air and many NPR/
> PRI shows are archived.
>
> Dave Richoux
>
> On Aug 17, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon wrote:
>
>> I must be missing something.  It was mentioned a while back that
>> the streaming broadcast is always several years out-of-date.  Why
>> is that?  Why record a show today and not play it on air for
>> another 3-4 years?
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:19:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon" <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] RadioOKOM.
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>>>>I think you must have miss-read something - most stations that do
> internet broadcasts stream current programs, maybe at most  a few
> seconds delay from the "on-the-air" program.<<<
>
> Well, Don Robertson was mentioning that he has heard references to events 
> several years in the past.
>
> Don?
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:36:12 -0400
> From: RICK KNITTEL <knittelsportland at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] What is Jazz?
> To: marekboym at gmail.com
> Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <20070817.143614.2720.1.knittelsportland at juno.com>
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>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:06:26 +0300 "Marek Boym" <marekboym at gmail.com>
> writes:
>> Play - or sing?  The latter is easy, as in his last years he could
>> only sing, and on some songs was not even accompanied by a jazz
>> band.
>> Play - I guess you're right.  Louis (and Hodges) could play a
>> melody
>> straight and still make it  sound like jazz.
>> Cheers
>
> I don't believe either Louis or Johnny Hodges EVER played a melody
> straight. All the recordings I have heard of them have their individual
> take on the melody. Each was syncopated and took liberties with the
> melody line. To me that is jazz.
>
> Rick Knittel
>
>
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