[Dixielandjazz] Jazz palling on repetition? (was "Brubeck")

[Marek Boym]

I agree!
By the way, the British trombone player Roy Crimmins (a founder member
of the Alex Welsh band) told me taht, when he joined Harry Gold and
the Pieces of Eight, that band had all the trombone solos  written
down.  After a while, he became tired of having to play the sma solos
over and over again (Roy does not play anymore, but he was a great
improviser) and asked Harry Gold whether he could play his own solos.
The answer was: "By all means!"  It turned out that the band had to
write the trombone solos down because Roy's predecessor could not
improvise!
Cheers
SUPPORT LIVE JAZZ

On 15/08/07, Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis
<larrys.bands at charter.net> wrote:
> Robert Said - I disagree that real jazz palls on repeated listening.
>
> LW - It doesn't - - See my other post. (Is it Jazz? - was Brubeck)
>
> Here we are talking about Listening which is a very different thing from
> playing and how it's played.  Once it is recorded or written down or both
> then it is not the same as Improvised jazz in it's pure form even though it
> may have been when it was  recorded or written down.
>
> It is still jazz even though you listen to it 7000 times but it isn't jazz
> if you are playing it for the 7000th time.  It becomes a reproduction and
> just isn't the same.  Again the confusion comes when you mix
> improvisational creative playing, reproduction playing and listening under
> one name "Jazz".
>
> Too bad we don't possess terms in the English language to separate the
> concepts.
> Larry
> St. Louis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith at tele2.no>
> To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Cc: "jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:09 AM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz palling on repetition? (was "Brubeck")
>
>
> >I disagree that real jazz palls on repeated listening. The first jazz
> >record that I bought was Jelly Roll Morton's "Doctor Jazz", almost exactly
> >60 years ago. Over the next few years I acquired more Jelly Roll Morton,
> >King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band, Louis' Hot 5's and Hot 7's, and a
> >miscellany of other 1920's jazz.
> > These are still my favourite records, and I listen to them on a regular
> > basis. I think I enjoy them more now than I did 50 and 60 years ago.
> >
> > The originals were all 78's, and they are now on LP or CD. I still have
> > the 78's, and the equipment to play them. As a backup 30 years ago I
> > transferred all the 78's to reel-to-reel tape, and subsequently to CD's.
> > Just occasionally I put one of the 78's on the player, just to have a
> > nostalgic moment. There's something about handling a 78, that the
> > convenience of CD's can never replace.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bob Smith
> >
> >
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