[Dixielandjazz] Six And Seven-eights String band LP

Hans en Corrie Koert koerthchkz at zeelandnet.nl
Fri May 19 12:08:36 PDT 2006


You mean, Ate, that the Folkway FA 2671 recordings are either 1955, 1956 nor
1965 but 20 March 1949?

Enjoy my daily weblog: http://keepswinging.blogspot.com

Keep swinging

Hans Koert
http://www.keepswinging.opweb.nl

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Van: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
[mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com]Namens Ate van Delden
Verzonden: vrijdag 19 mei 2006 19:53
Aan: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Onderwerp: [Dixielandjazz] Six And Seven-eights String band LP



The recordings by the Six and Seven-Eight String band have always been among
my favorites, ever since I heard their version of Donna Clara over Dutch
radio, around 1960. Jepsen has the date of these recordings as March 20,
1949 which, I think, is correct.
The Folkways LP contains 16 titles and some alternate takes.
Some more recordings by this group were issued on 78s only. The labels are
New Orleans Originals and Circle. They are mostly different takes again (and
they are different indeed, I checked it).

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>   1. Six-and-Seven-Eights (Hans en Corrie Koert)
>   2. Wax cylinders (Bob Romans)
>   3. Jazz Police (Bob Romans)
>   4. Re: Six-and-Seven-Eights (Phil O'Rourke)
>   5. Re: Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1 (David Richoux)
>   6. Re: Six-and-Seven-Eights (Bill Haesler)
>   7. Re: Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1 (spelling correction)
>      (David Richoux)
>   8. Re:  Six-and-Seven-Eights (Bill Haesler)
>   9. "The Pearl"  song needed (John Farrell)
>  10. Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1 (Graham Martin)
>  11. Re:Time jazz cover (was Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1)
>      (Bill Haesler)
>  12. Anachronic Jazz Band and iTunes (Bill Haesler)
>  13. Buddy Bolden (Anton Crouch)
>  14. Correct spelling (Gerard Bielderman)
>  15. Re:  Correct spelling (Bill Haesler)
>  16. The Bolden cylinder - elliptical thinking (Brian Harvey)
>  17. RE: Wax cylinders (Ron L'Herault)
>  18. Re: Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1
>      (Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis)
>  19. Re: Wax cylinders (Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis)
>  20. Re: The Bolden cylinder - elliptical thinking
>      (Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:04:42 +0200
> From: "Hans en Corrie Koert" <koerthchkz at zeelandnet.nl>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Six-and-Seven-Eights
> To: "Dixieland List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <NGEHIDJHCNAFAENHKFEHAEGFCEAA.koerthchkz at zeelandnet.nl>
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> Can someone obtain me the recording date for the Folkways FA 2671
> "Six-and-Seven-Eights String Band?
>
> Enjoy my daily weblog: http://keepswinging.blogspot.com
>
> Keep swinging
>
> Hans Koert
> http://www.keepswinging.opweb.nl
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:43:22 -0700
> From: "Bob Romans" <cellblk7 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Wax cylinders
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <001e01c67b07$249d8b90$6c4ab643 at lodibrass>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I just purchased a very nice wax cylinder player...with 3 cylinders...one
> of
> them being "Yellow Dog Blues", Fox Trot, with M. Raderman's Jazz
> Orchestra...I haven't heard it yet...just too busy to wind up the machine
> and play it!
> Question! Has anyone ever heard of that "jazz orchestra"?
> The other one is, "On The Beach Medley", by The Waikiki Hawaiian Orch.
> It's
> amazing how good and how loud these sound!
> Warmest regards,
> Bob Romans,
> 1617 Lakeshore Drive,
> Lodi, Calif., 95242
> Cell..209-747-1148
> Home...209-339-4676
> www.cellblockseven2002.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:47:44 -0700
> From: "Bob Romans" <cellblk7 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Police
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <002201c67b07$c0802950$6c4ab643 at lodibrass>
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>
> Can we please get off the subject of "jazz police"? I'm getting very
> nervous!!
> Warmest regards,
> Bob Romans,
> Leader...Cell Block 7 Jazz Band
> 1617 Lakeshore Drive,
> Lodi, Calif., 95242
> Cell..209-747-1148
> Home...209-339-4676
> www.cellblockseven2002.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:47:46 +1000
> From: "Phil O'Rourke" <philor at webone.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Six-and-Seven-Eights
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <002c01c67b07$c3e3edc0$0200a8c0 at philsfred>
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>
> This LP was recorded in June 1965
>
> Phil O'Rourke
> Australia
>
>
>> Can someone obtain me the recording date for the Folkways FA 2671
>> "Six-and-Seven-Eights String Band?
>>
>> Enjoy my daily weblog: http://keepswinging.blogspot.com
>>
>> Keep swinging
>>
>> Hans Koert
>> http://www.keepswinging.opweb.nl
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:51:53 -0700
> From: David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1
> To: DJML Jazz <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <38D1E841-18CA-44E1-9371-59F4352A59A7 at tubatoast.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
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> Sorry Steve,
>
> According to the Time Magazine website:
> Louis Armstrong was on Time Mag cover on Feb 21, 1949 and David
> Brubeck was on Nov. 08, 1954
>
> but the Duke didn't make it until Aug. 20, 1956
>
> BTW, Monk was on Feb. 28, 1964 and Winton made it Oct 22, 1990  and
> that is IT for Time Jazz covers...
>
> Dave Richoux
>
> On May 18, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Steve barbone wrote:
>
>> It is well to recall that Dave Brubeck was the first jazz
>> musician to make the cover of "TIME" magazine, much to his chagrin
>> as he
>> felt that honor should have gone to Ellington.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:54:16 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Six-and-Seven-Eights
> To: Hans en Corrie Koert <koerthchkz at zeelandnet.nl>, dixieland jazz
> mail list <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <C0939AA8.EB9B%bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
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>> Can someone obtain me the recording date for the Folkways FA 2671
> "Six-and-Seven-Eights String Band?<
>
> Dear Hans,
> June 1955.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:56:20 -0700
> From: David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1
> (spelling correction)
> To: DJML Jazz <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <EE88AB88-FB96-4E9F-8B4B-2D6725D64A34 at tubatoast.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Sorry Steve,
>
> According to the Time Magazine website:
> Louis Armstrong was on Time Mag cover on Feb 21, 1949 and David
> Brubeck was on Nov. 08, 1954
>
> but the Duke didn't make it until Aug. 20, 1956
>
> BTW, Monk was on Feb. 28, 1964 and Wynton made it Oct 22, 1990  and
> that is IT for Time Jazz covers...
>
> Dave Richoux
>
> On May 18, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Steve barbone wrote:
>
>> It is well to recall that Dave Brubeck was the first jazz
>> musician to make the cover of "TIME" magazine, much to his chagrin
>> as he
>> felt that honor should have gone to Ellington.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:01:05 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re:  Six-and-Seven-Eights
> To: Phil O'Rourke <philor at webone.com.au>, dixieland jazz mail list
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <C0939C41.EB9F%bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>> This LP was recorded in June 1965
>
> Gong!!!
> Go sit in the corner Phil.
> It was 1955!
> Regards,
> Bill.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:21:31 +0100
> From: "John Farrell" <stridepiano at tesco.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] "The Pearl"  song needed
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID:
>
<ellington$62.252.236.45$.PIEGKNHBJHIHFPKOIOJDEEMKDMAA.stridepiano at tesco.net
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Tom Wiggins passed this on :
>
> "I have short film I am submitting to festivals. In it I've used a song
> by Jelly Roll Morton as the scoring. Unfortunately, I don't hold
> copyrights to this recording. I'm looking for a recording of "The
> Pearl" that I could use in my film, or something similar in feel and
> texture. I can pay $200.
>
>   The movie is 3:20, and is a silent slapstick done in black and white
> super-8. It has a very classic feel to it.
>
>
>           Compensation: $200"
>
> Almost certainly the guy means Morton's "The Pearls" and we have the
> perfect candidate for this gig - jump in there Butch!
>
> John Farrell
> http://homepages.tesco.net/~stridepiano/midifiles.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:45:16 +1000
> From: "Graham Martin" <grahmartin at bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <001801c67b0f$c9b31340$0100000a at HCHOME>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Tom Wood said:
>
>
>
> ["SNIP
>
>
>
> I reiterate that to a certain extent we are playing for what our "Joe
> Public" wants to hear (although we still control the situation) rather
> than what politically correct jazz fans and other musicians consider we
> should play or not play.  I think I said once before on this list that our
> best sales for CDs are to "Joe Public" NOT jazz fans.  We will play WWW
> and perhaps Hello Dolly at the Mardi Graz in Edinburgh again this year and
> try to beat our 2003 (125 sales to tourists) record for this one gig.  The
> public like to hear it so what is wrong with trying to capitalise on this.
>
>
> I must admit however, I am having difficulty getting Midnight in Moscow
> and Samantha onto our playing sets this year..
>
>
>
> SNIP
>
>
>
> Tom (jazzman rather than musician) Wood
>
> Sydney Zenith JB"]
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuckle. Never a truer word. I snuck 'Hello Dolly" onto the play list for
> our new Morton Bay Jazzband, led by Derek Capewell up here in Brissy, at
> our regular weekly gig at an Indian restaurant - Don't ask, but I do
> listen to people on this list when they say we should look for alternative
> gigs. Guess what tune was requested by the kitchen staff this week?  Also
> no Goon Show jokes please, although it is true that the band always
> finishes the evening with some very fine Balti Indian cuisine!
>
>
>
> And by far the most applauded solos with my own band, The Southern Bay
> Stompers, are those taken on penny whistle or kazoo. Plus anything sung by
> the frontline in barbershop harmony. I don't try to figure it. We just
> oblige. I compensate slightly with educative announcements. Wink!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Grah
>
>
> Graham Martin
> REDLAND BAY
> Queensland, AUSTRALIA
>
> E-mail: grahmartin at bigpond.com
> Website: http://tromjazz.netfirms.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:02:28 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re:Time jazz cover (was Preservation ?
> Creativity? Rule # 1)
> To: David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>, dixieland jazz mail list
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <C093AAA4.EBAC%bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>> According to the Time Magazine website:
> Louis Armstrong was on Time Mag cover on Feb 21, 1949 and David
> Brubeck was on Nov. 08, 1954<
>
> Dear Dave and Steve,
> The story of the Louis 'Time' magazine cover is in the 1997 Laurence
> Bergreen book 'Louis Armstrong. An Extravagant Life'.
> Louis is wearing a crown of trumpets and the 'Time' cover coincided with
> his
> appearance at the 1949 New Orleans Mardi Gras scheduled for the following
> week.
> Google >Louis Armstrong, Time cover, 1949< to see a copy of it.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:37:05 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Anachronic Jazz Band and iTunes
> To: dixieland jazz mail list <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <C093B2C1.EBAD%bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Dear friends,
> After having iTunes on my computer for several years with its Playlist
> filling up with jazz and comedy mp3s sent to me over that time, I decided
> the other day to learn a bit about the program.
> I have an early 2001 manual, plus the usual (useless) computer 'Help'
> facility.
> So, it has been mainly trial-and-error so far.
> In the course of all this I decided to download the Anachronic Jazz Band
> sides kindly posted to the list by our friend in France, Gary Kiser.
> [OK, I have the CDs, but I thought it would be a good training exercise.]
> I eventually managed to download all of Gary's files into my Playlist.
> The music comes up instantly when selected and plays nicely.
> So, I assume that it is on my hard disc.
> I've been using my mate DJMLer Phil O'Rourke (down the road in Canberra)
> as
> a testing station and successfully sent him a naughty Monty Python song
> from
> the Playlist.
> I then tried to forward "Anachronic Blues" to Phil as a test, but could
> not
> access it from the same iTunes Music (Playlist) file using the 'add
> attachment' on the email toolbar.
> None of the Anachronic titles show up in iTunes Music link!
> Everything else does.
> The odd thing is that in the Playlist (in the full iTunes program) to the
> left of each Anachronic tune title, the iTunes 'Radio' symbol appears.
> If I open 'Radio', from the left hand 'source' list, I get a long list of
> radio stations, but the Anachronic sides aren't there either.
> Where are they?
> Why can't I access them for attachment to an email?
> I am using an eMax with OS X 10.2.8 (Panther).
> If any Macophiles can help please reply off list, as I don't want the rest
> of the DJML bored with what is really a non-jazz item.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:19:24 +1000
> From: Anton Crouch <anton.crouch at optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Buddy Bolden
> To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20060519181924.00935100 at mail.optusnet.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Hello all
>
> I don't know whether Brian Harvey was being elliptical or not, but it
> would
> be unwise to dismiss his comment on a Bolden recording out of hand. And,
> yes - I'm the arch sceptic.
>
> Don Marquis ("In search of Buddy Bolden", 1978) provides a (relatively)
> recent starting point - a report of a comment by Willie Cornish to Charles
> E Smith in 1939. Dan Hardie discusses this further in "The loudest
> trumpet", 2001.
>
> Incidentally, Dan's recent DJML post says "Around the 1940's Wil. Cornish
> who played trombone with Bolden  told Sam Charters  the band had made a
> recording on wax cylinder." Dan's reference in "The louderst trumpet" is
> the same as Marquis' - Smith (1957). Dan, who did Cornish talk to?
>
> I agree with Don Marquis "That the cylinder was made is quite believable;
> that it is gone forever is even more believable ..." (p 44). Like Dan, I
> disagree with Marquis when he says "...and perhaps preferable since its
> presence would cause insoluble problems." (Marquis, p 44; Hardie, p
> 19-20).
>
> The most recent discussion of the issue is by Tim Brooks ("Lost sounds",
> 2004, p 514 - 515). This provides further support for Brian's position - a
> story by George Baquet and Alphonse Picou about a Bolden recording c.
> 1906.
>
> It's not too difficult to be both sceptical and open-minded   :-)
>
> All the best
> Anton
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:15:45 +0200
> From: "Gerard Bielderman" <gerard.bielderman at tiscali.nl>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Correct spelling
> To: "DJM List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <003701c67b24$cf66fcb0$cfecab52 at bielderman>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
> What is the correct spelling of the traditional tune:
> By and by      or     Bye and bye?
>
> Gerard Bielderman / Leie 18 / 8032 ZG  ZWOLLE / Netherlands
> Publisher of jazz discographies
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:27:31 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re:  Correct spelling
> To: Gerard Bielderman <gerard.bielderman at tiscali.nl>, dixieland jazz
> mail list <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <C093DAB3.EBB5%bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
>> What is the correct spelling of the traditional tune:
> By and by      or     Bye and bye?<
>
> Dear Gerard,
> Knowing your vast knowledge of our music, I suspect that this may be a
> trick
> question.
> 8>)
>
> *"In The Sweet Bye and Bye" (1902. Harry Von Tilzer, music - Vincent
> Bryan,
> lyrics)
>  In the sweet bye an' bye
>  We shall meet on that beautiful shore
>  In the sweet bye an' bye
>  We shall meet on that beautiful shore.
>
> *"Bye and Bye [When The Morning Comes]" (1906. Charles Albert Tindley)
> This one often gets labelled 'Traditional'.
>
> *"Bye and Bye" (1924. Pease - Nelson - Vincent)
> This one was recorded by Fletcher Henderson in Jan 1925 with a great
> half-chorus and coda from Louis.)
>
> *"Bye and Bye" (1925. Richard Rogers, music - Lorenz Hart, lyrics).
> Featured in the Broadway Musical 'Dearest Enemy'.
>
> I also have a reference to a "Bye and Bye' in the Broadway show 'George
> White's Scandals of !922' which needs a bit more research.
>
> All references I have (except Anderson) give the spelling for each of the
> above as "Bye".
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:33:30 +0100
> From: "Brian Harvey" <brer.rabbit at tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] The Bolden cylinder - elliptical thinking
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <MCBBLAFDKBIBDHLDLGALAEGEDNAA.brer.rabbit at tiscali.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> I am very grateful to Anton Crouch for his reasoned comments on this
> subject.
> In view of the allegation that I make "elliptical" comments - whatever
> that
> may mean - I asked New Orleans historian and Editor of New Orleans Music
> magazine Doug Landau for his help. He responds thus.......
>
> "The first comprehensive coverage appeared in the "Saturday Review"
> March 1957 - "The Bolden Cylinder" by Charles Edward Smith.
> As it happens this article is going to be reproduced in the
> next but one issue of NOM. There is a bit on it in the last
> issue of NOM - see book reviews, and the next issue will
> have a bit more on it in the editorial. It is true that
> Bolden did not record in the commercial sense."
>
> The review that Doug refers to is of the Revised edition of Donald M.
> Marquis book "In Search Of Buddy Bolden - First Man Of Jazz". The review
> states that within the new edition "....a new name appears in the index,
> one
> Oscar Zahn, the man who recorded Bolden on an Edison cylinder. Without
> giving too much away, it seems that the Bolden cylinder was safe and sound
> at a known location until the early 1960s, when it was, along with other
> cylinders, in advertently destroyed."
>
> I am unable to recall where it was I read of the verifying comments of
> George Baquet and Alphonse Picou but their testimony together with that of
> Willie Cornish who was at the recording should surely remove most of the
> doubt about the recording having taken place.
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:52:33 -0400
> From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Wax cylinders
> To: <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <002501c67b4b$7aea0ac0$14d4299b at busdm801ron>
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> I've got Raderman's group doing Yellow Dog on an acoustic Victor.
> Raderman played in a number of other bands besides fronting his own.  He
> featured his "laughing" trombone, which you probably heard on YDB.  As a
> youngster of 14, the recording was one reason I took up the trombone.  I
> was, in my ignorance, surprised when I heard another band play YDB and
> there was no laughing trombone part in it!
>
> I didn't think he'd done it on Wax cylinders.  I would have guessed it
> was on Blue Amberol, a 4 min. long celluloid cylinder.
>
> Ron L (collector/repairer of antique phonos, amasser of records)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Bob Romans
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:43 AM
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Wax cylinders
>
> I just purchased a very nice wax cylinder player...with 3
> cylinders...one of
> them being "Yellow Dog Blues", Fox Trot, with M. Raderman's Jazz
> Orchestra...I haven't heard it yet...just too busy to wind up the
> machine
> and play it!
> Question! Has anyone ever heard of that "jazz orchestra"?
> The other one is, "On The Beach Medley", by The Waikiki Hawaiian Orch.
> It's
> amazing how good and how loud these sound!
> Warmest regards,
> Bob Romans,
> 1617 Lakeshore Drive,
> Lodi, Calif., 95242
> Cell..209-747-1148
> Home...209-339-4676
> www.cellblockseven2002.net
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:07:51 -0500
> From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
> <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1
> To: "Graham Martin" <grahmartin at bigpond.com>,
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> Graham : Show biz trumps all!
> Larry
> St. Louis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Martin" <grahmartin at bigpond.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:45 AM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Preservation ? Creativity? Rule # 1
>
>
> Tom Wood said:
>
>
>
> ["SNIP
>
>
>
> I reiterate that to a certain extent we are playing for what our "Joe
> Public" wants to hear (although we still control the situation) rather
> than
> what politically correct jazz fans and other musicians consider we should
> play or not play.  I think I said once before on this list that our best
> sales for CDs are to "Joe Public" NOT jazz fans.  We will play WWW and
> perhaps Hello Dolly at the Mardi Graz in Edinburgh again this year and try
> to beat our 2003 (125 sales to tourists) record for this one gig.  The
> public like to hear it so what is wrong with trying to capitalise on this.
>
>
> I must admit however, I am having difficulty getting Midnight in Moscow
> and
> Samantha onto our playing sets this year..
>
>
>
> SNIP
>
>
>
> Tom (jazzman rather than musician) Wood
>
> Sydney Zenith JB"]
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuckle. Never a truer word. I snuck 'Hello Dolly" onto the play list for
> our new Morton Bay Jazzband, led by Derek Capewell up here in Brissy, at
> our
> regular weekly gig at an Indian restaurant - Don't ask, but I do listen to
> people on this list when they say we should look for alternative gigs.
> Guess
> what tune was requested by the kitchen staff this week?  Also no Goon Show
> jokes please, although it is true that the band always finishes the
> evening
> with some very fine Balti Indian cuisine!
>
>
>
> And by far the most applauded solos with my own band, The Southern Bay
> Stompers, are those taken on penny whistle or kazoo. Plus anything sung by
> the frontline in barbershop harmony. I don't try to figure it. We just
> oblige. I compensate slightly with educative announcements. Wink!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Grah
>
>
> Graham Martin
> REDLAND BAY
> Queensland, AUSTRALIA
>
> E-mail: grahmartin at bigpond.com
> Website: http://tromjazz.netfirms.com/
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:15:17 -0500
> From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
> <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Wax cylinders
> To: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>,
> <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <004a01c67b57$0e40b250$a5fbb844 at COMPACSR1320NX>
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>
> My brush with wax cylinders ended in disaster.  When I was a kid about 10
> years old we found in my friends garage an old phonograph with a large
> basket of cylinders.  The basket was one of those that was larger at the
> top
> and small at the bottom and about three feet tall.  We would play a
> cylinder
> and put it on the top and reach down into the basket and get a cylinder
> near
> the bottom.  We were having a great time listening to the machine and
> playing with it until I reached into the basket and ran a large splinter
> up
> under my nail.  OUCH!!!  Thus ended my fascination with recorded
> cylinders.
> Larry
> St. Louis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
> To: <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Wax cylinders
>
>
>> I've got Raderman's group doing Yellow Dog on an acoustic Victor.
>> Raderman played in a number of other bands besides fronting his own.  He
>> featured his "laughing" trombone, which you probably heard on YDB.  As a
>> youngster of 14, the recording was one reason I took up the trombone.  I
>> was, in my ignorance, surprised when I heard another band play YDB and
>> there was no laughing trombone part in it!
>>
>> I didn't think he'd done it on Wax cylinders.  I would have guessed it
>> was on Blue Amberol, a 4 min. long celluloid cylinder.
>>
>> Ron L (collector/repairer of antique phonos, amasser of records)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
>> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Bob Romans
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:43 AM
>> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Wax cylinders
>>
>> I just purchased a very nice wax cylinder player...with 3
>> cylinders...one of
>> them being "Yellow Dog Blues", Fox Trot, with M. Raderman's Jazz
>> Orchestra...I haven't heard it yet...just too busy to wind up the
>> machine
>> and play it!
>> Question! Has anyone ever heard of that "jazz orchestra"?
>> The other one is, "On The Beach Medley", by The Waikiki Hawaiian Orch.
>> It's
>> amazing how good and how loud these sound!
>> Warmest regards,
>> Bob Romans,
>> 1617 Lakeshore Drive,
>> Lodi, Calif., 95242
>> Cell..209-747-1148
>> Home...209-339-4676
>> www.cellblockseven2002.net
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:27:33 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon" <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] The Bolden cylinder - elliptical thinking
> To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> I certainly accept that anything is possible, and it must be admitted
> there is plenty of not-so-ancient testimony to said possibility.  It's
> funny how exactly this issue is like one in my ecclesiastical world, ie,
> spurious claims of Apostolic Succession by fly-by "Bishops."  In that
> context, the only logical answer is "No Instrument of Consecration, no
> living, reliable witnesses, no Succession."  In the presence of mere
> verbal claims, regardless of reliability, and in the absence of Habeus
> recordus, what shakes out for me is basic wishful thinking:  we all wish
> it were so, so the "evidence" mounts.
>
> But don't count me out of the running, though:  I'm definitely one of the
> wishers!,
>
> --
> Etc,
>
> Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon, Vicar-general
> North American Old Roman Catholic Church (Utrecht Succession)
> Archdiocese of California
> www.naorc.org
>
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