[Dixielandjazz] Who taught Louis, Bolden, Ory
Chris Tyle
silverleafjb at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 16 10:55:54 PST 2006
In response to this earlier querry...
The most important key to learning to play jazz is listening. That's what all great jazz players did. They went and listened to other musicians playing around New Orleans and in Ory's case, LaPlace, Louisiana before he moved to the city. They working on being able to hear what was appropriate to play. Musical theory was secondary. They developed their "ears." In general they didn't study theory, with some vary rare exceptions, mostly by those who became pianists or arrangers. But they developed their "ears" to the point they could tell what worked and what didn't harmonically.
Bolden and Ory lived in uptown New Orleans, in a neighborhood where there was a large number of fine musicians: King Oliver, Clarence Williams, the Dodds Brothers, Larry Shields (who lived next door to Bolden), Papa Celestin, et. al., lived within a 20 block radius.
As a past member of the faculty of the San Diego jazz festival jazz camp I've tried to stress the importance of listening to the acknowledged masters of jazz to learn how to play. I can always tell a player who has listened and learned from great players. For every great jazz musician there is some special player or players they have been influenced by. For example:
Louis Armstrong: King Oliver, Bunk Johnson, Buddy Petit
Benny Goodman: Jimmie Noone, Johnny Dodds
Jelly Roll Morton: Tony Jackson
Lester Young: Frankie Trumbauer
Miles Davis: Harold "Shorty" Baker
Interestingly King Oliver took lessons from Italian-born trumpeter Frank Guarente when he lived for a couple of years in New Orleans. Oliver reciprocated by helping Guarente learn how to play jazz, and he was an adept pupil, as evidenced by his fine playing on the recordings made by his group, The Georgians, available at www.redhotjazz.com/georgians.html
Regarding the question about whether Louis Armstrong went to college, he did not. No jazz players of the "golden era" learned how to play in college. 99% didn't even attend college, as there was no educational facility teaching jazz until probably the 1970s. Armstrong learned how to play trumpet in the Jones Waif Home in New Orleans, then studied with King Oliver and when he was worked for the Streckfus steamboat company for Fate Marable (please note the spelling), he was given some instruction from saxophonist/mellophonist David Jones, specifically to improve his reading. .
Cheers,
Chris Tyle
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