[Dixielandjazz] Music theory

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  gary church 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tcashwigg at aol.com
To: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:38:33 -0500
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Music theory


Hi Ed: 
 
With all due respect to you and the fine music you play and record, I would like to comment on your comment about the dirty dozen and those that might wish to play more than they do. 
 
They must be doing something right, keeping it simple and entertaining every audience that they step on stage in front of. I personally think they get into musical trouble once in awhile by doing it with an over emphasis on Theory and grammar, which is totally wasted on the mass audiences of the world who have not studied or learned the same theory or grammar. They Keep it Simple and they win more fans and more listeners and make a very good living doing what we all wish to do PLAY MUSIC AS A PROFESSIONALLY PAID MUSICIAN. So what pray tell are they doing wrong ?? 
 
They are about as close to a touring Big band that is financially successful as any I have seen in thirty years and more so than many. 
 
I ask for Any Dixieland Band that plays more gigs and makes more money than the Dirty Dozen to Raise their hands up high so we can all see them. Are there some folks who can play more notes and faster sure, but Our adopted Founding Father King Louis pops Armstrong said it more than once as he made this music popular all over the world with his Limited education and theory training. 
 
"It ain't always what you say but how you say it" Especially with Jazz Music the International LANGUAGE. 
 
In my humble opinion many Dixieland bands and arrangers simply have tried over the years to turn this free flowing improvisational inner feeling music into a hybrid version of Classical music and often simply take it far over the heads of the general audience that attempt to listen to it and actually enjoy it. If we are all so high strung on preserving it, why can't we leave it alone, it was never BROKE and we don't need to fix it if it ain't. We are all Free to play it anyway that we personally like to play it, and if we develop an audience that is willing to pay us to hear it Fantastic. 
 
Cheers, 
 
Tom "Simple Boy" Wiggins 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Edmetzsr at aol.com 
To: paul.edgerton at eds.com 
Cc: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com 
Sent: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:29:20 EST 
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Music theory 
 
In a message dated 3/15/2006 2:53:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
paul.edgerton at eds.com writes: 
 
If you want to be fully conversant in the language of jazz, you need to 
know both the vocabulary and the grammar. 
 
 
Paul, well said. These recent, nearly endless chains on the subjects of set 
lists and theory usefulness lead me to believe that we've got lots of folks 
who are unwilling to take the blinders off. Both categories may be very  
useful or totally useless depending on the personnel, their flexibility, their 
level of experience, their ability to plan, their willingness to think, their 
ability to read, their desire to play more than the dirty dozen, ............and 
 
on and on and on. "Enuff" said. Ed Metz 
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