[Dixielandjazz] Declining Victoria Jazz Fest Attendance...

[tcashwigg at aol.com]

Hi Jeanne:

If you are a real Pro you better have some new songs for every show so 
you don't bore those that keep coming out to see you as you continually 
strive to attract new people to appreciate and support your act.   Some 
songs work some don't but you must keep presenting a new and 
unpredictable show or you will eventually lose your audience as a 
professional act.

Presenting the same old same old show after show festival after 
festival, will eventually breed lethargy with even the most devout 
audience who will elect to stay home an watch the old tele instead of 
getting up taking a shower or their weekly Saturday Night bath as the 
case may be and gassing up the old station wagon and driving off to see 
you live.


It's now Politically called  "Been there done that".  or I'm just too 
tired tonight Marsha,  or "Not tonight John I have a Headache!

Cheers,

Tom Wiggins  "Whose never had a Headache"

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanne Brei <TinPanAlleyCat at cox.net>
To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:28:54 -0800
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Declining Victoria Jazz Fest Attendance...

   Hey Len, Hey Steve, 
    I was working a NASCAR event in Las Vegas today and sitting behind 
me was a lovely couple from Victoria, BC -- and I asked them if they go 
to the TerrificVic Jazz Fest there because I went a few years back (to 
see one of the last stops for Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs) and had a 
fabulous time -- especially since there were so many wonderful dancers 
up there (and the guys could lead!) 
    Anyway, they told me that they used to go to that festival all the 
time but in the last few years it had declined in quality -- primarily 
because it was losing money and so could no longer bring bands in from 
Europe or very far away. And they said that they had already heard all 
the bands that were on the bill for the last few years AND all the 
songs that those bands did and felt that now it was very boring and 
repetitious. 
    I think that's VERY important for the festival bookers to hear -- 
yes, you should always have a few local favorites invited but you 
should also always consider having a few "showbands" who really care 
about being entertaining and always prepare NEW songs for EVERY jazz 
festival they go to -- for instance, you might get some of those folks 
back if you invite Titan Hot 7 with Draga & Barnhart and the guys -- or 
Banu Gibson -- or Tom Hook with the Dogs -- you could never say that 
any of those acts are boring or repetitious -- Banu always makes sure 
she has at least 12 new songs that no one's heard every time she comes 
out west. 
    And I think it's really important for the band leaders to hear -- 
especially if they're on the festival circuit (unlike Steve, I really 
like going to lots of jazz festivals). Always make sure you have some 
new songs each time you play a festival!!! 
 Jeanne Brei 
 Tin Pan Alley Cat Entertainment 
 Las Vegas 
 
  
  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve barbone" 
<barbonestreet at earthlink.net> 
 To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com> 
 Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:16 AM 
 Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Why am I back? 
 
  >I have returned to the list primarily because of the outpouring of 
notes 
  > both on list and off list requesting that that I not leave. To all 
of you, > I 
 > am very appreciative of your love and support. And a bit awed by it. 
 > 
  > Secondarily because of Len Neilsen whom I have not helped. I regard 
his > hate 
  > as a challenge. Also, Len forgets that several years ago I passed on 
to > him 
 > some reasons for Jazz Festival declining audiences, specifically the 
  > Victoria Festival. He took great offense claiming that jazz 
festivals were 
  > not in trouble attendance wise, no doubt thinking me arrogant for 
stating 
 > such views. 
 > 
  > Len, hate me all you want. That I bother you is your problem. But 
gee > whiz, 
  > please don't try and be the List Rules policeman. But if you are 
still 
  > denying the audience problems of OKOM festivals, you might hop the 
Ferry > to 
  > Port Angeles and ask Gary Sorenson who produces that Dixieland 
Festival, 
  > just why he and Don Jones, publisher of American Rag, are spending 
so much 
  > time meeting with other US Festival Directors. First meeting in 
January 
  > 2006, second one in planning. To STEM THE DECLINE OF FESTIVAL 
ATTENDANCE > and 
  > figure out ways to get it rising again so that Festivals survive. 
And, > gasp 
  > choke, using some of the information gained from my "repetitive 
posts" on 
  > the DJML. Oh gee, is that a brag? No, just the simple truth of the 
matter. 
 > 
  > Thirdly, because of Kash, Farrell and Vax who are all nice people, 
no > doubt 
  > we would enjoy a drink together in a pub somewhere, but constantly 
misread 
  > and misquote what I write and then go off on personal attacks. I 
view you > as 
  > a challenge also. But when I respond in kind, I hope you'll quit 
whining 
 > that I am the hammer of retribution. 
 > 
  > Sword of the Prophet is more to my liking. :-) VBG. (Oh no, please 
do not 
 > take that seriously) 
 > 
  > To those who have a problem with me, please write me off list and 
I'll be 
  > happy to discuss what ever it is that bothers you. In gentlemenly 
fashion > if 
  > your tone was gentlemenly. Or not, as YOU choose. And I will keep it 
off 
  > list. Ignore my spam filter as I will see and respond as long as I > 
recognize 
  > the subject line. Suggest DJML there. But please also remember that 
there 
  > are 500 others on this list who most of us don't know. And that they 
are 
  > probably a diverse group who while having some similar interests are 
all 
  > unique and we might make an effort to understand that they are as 
least as 
  > important as we are. And that they have some very different needs 
and > views 
  > from ours. So while "we" might not like a post "they" very well 
might. 
 > 
  > Other than that, use of the delete key is a very simple solution to 
> getting 
  > pissed about what someone writes. If we hate someone, why not just 
extend 
 > the middle finger and delete? Gets rid of a lot of aggression. 
 > 
 > Cheers to all, 
 > Steve 
 > 
 > 
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