[Dixielandjazz] Why am I back? Delete now

Sun Mar 12 21:08:55 PST 2006

I don't know who's right or wrong in this but the St. Louis Jazz festival 
with such greats as Singleton Palmer and others used to pack the levy (I'm 
talking thousands) at St. Louis and when it moved to St. Charles it got 
smaller (that's a river town that borders St. Louis County to the West). 
Then it became non existent.  There are no OKOM festivals anywhere near here 
and haven't been for 6-8 years.  St. Louis is big enough to support a jazz 
festival but doesn't so you guys get to hear Cornet Chop Suey and I don't.
Larry
St. Louis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Len Nielsen" <lennielsen at telus.net>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Why am I back? Delete now


> Steve
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> I have said it to you before and I will say it to you again. You have 
> never strived for accuracy in your rebuttals. I have included your recent 
> post in entirety in which you exhibit your inaccuracy, untruthfulness and 
> lack of concern for those maligned. I assume, from many years of observing 
> your discussions, that your past training has been that winning at all 
> cost is all that matters and you must eliminate all facts that will hamper 
> that result.
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> I am not going to defend myself to you. You do not even care enough about 
> what I think to spell my name accurately. I do, however, wonder why you 
> put so much effort into spinning out the "hate" thing. It makes me feel 
> important. :)
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> You portray "Kash, Farrell and Vax" who are all successful businessmen as 
> people who cannot read, cannot quote accurately (the kettle calling the 
> pot black) and who when debating your point of view engage in "personal 
> attacks". Not only that but you infer that they are whiners.
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> Poor Steve! :( Even some of your supporters must be cringing in there 
> boots over the patheticness of this post.
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> I generally, in my life, avoid controversy but with you that is impossible 
> as you have appointed yourself the DJML bully. A term generally applied to 
> younger people but appropriate here, nonetheless. The schools here 
> instituted the WITS program to counter this. The "W" standing for "walk 
> away". I read your noxious posts for approximately 5 years before I said 
> to myself enough is enough. Without some confrontation you will take full 
> rein and that will be the end of the DJML. This must not happen!
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> Dixieland Music. I attended the OKOM jazz festival 2 weeks ago in Seaside 
> Oregon and it was an overwhelming success. Every ticket available was 
> sold. The dancers from 6 to eighty (or over?) filled the dance floor 
> morning, noon and night including the Sunday morning gospel session. The 
> bands included Titan Hot Seven, Cornet Chop Suey and also the 51st Eight. 
> Approximate age 22, they got there start as a high school band at the 
> Chilliwack BC, Canada OKOM festival about 7 years ago and now are a booked 
> festival band. Some of the female members of this band also make up the 
> group Mighty Aphrodite. They play, they entertain, the front line joins 
> the umbrella parade and they feature some very young, very raw talent on 
> stage in order to pay back some of the breaks that they themselves were 
> given.
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> Steve, you can keep on reporting the depressing side of OKOM festivals, 
> and I will be pleased to report the up side that I observe in person or 
> that simply come to my attention like the downside comes to you.
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> Len Nielsen
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> Steve barbone wrote:
>> I have returned to the list primarily because of the outpouring of notes
>> both on list and off list requesting that that I not leave. To all of 
>> you, I
>> am very appreciative of your love and support. And a bit awed by it.
>>
>> Secondarily because of Len Neilsen whom I have not helped. I regard his 
>> hate
>> as a challenge. Also, Len forgets that several years ago I passed on to 
>> him
>> some reasons for Jazz Festival declining audiences, specifically the
>> Victoria Festival. He took great offense claiming that jazz festivals 
>> were
>> not in trouble attendance wise, no doubt thinking me arrogant for stating
>> such views. Len, hate me all you want. That I bother you is your problem. 
>> But gee whiz,
>> please don't try and be the List Rules policeman. But if you are still
>> denying the audience problems of OKOM festivals, you might hop the Ferry 
>> to
>> Port Angeles and ask Gary Sorenson who produces that Dixieland Festival,
>> just why he and Don Jones, publisher of American Rag, are spending so 
>> much
>> time meeting with other US Festival Directors. First meeting in January
>> 2006, second one in planning. To STEM THE DECLINE OF FESTIVAL ATTENDANCE 
>> and
>> figure out ways to get it rising again so that Festivals survive. And, 
>> gasp
>> choke, using some of the information gained from my "repetitive posts" on
>> the DJML. Oh gee, is that a brag? No, just the simple truth of the 
>> matter.
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>> Thirdly, because of Kash, Farrell and Vax who are all nice people, no 
>> doubt
>> we would enjoy a drink together in a pub somewhere, but constantly 
>> misread
>> and misquote what I write and then go off on personal attacks. I view you 
>> as
>> a challenge also. But when I respond in kind, I hope you'll quit whining
>> that I am the hammer of retribution.
>>
>> Sword of the Prophet is more to my liking. :-) VBG. (Oh no, please do not
>> take that seriously)
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>> To those who have a problem with me, please write me off list and I'll be
>> happy to discuss what ever it is that bothers you. In gentlemenly fashion 
>> if
>> your tone was gentlemenly. Or not, as YOU choose.  And I will keep it off
>> list. Ignore my spam filter as I will see and respond as long as I 
>> recognize
>> the subject line. Suggest DJML there. But please also remember that there
>> are 500 others on this list who most of us don't know. And that they are
>> probably a diverse group who while having some similar interests are all
>> unique and we might make an effort to understand that they are as least 
>> as
>> important as we are. And that they have some very different needs and 
>> views
>> from ours. So while "we" might not like a post "they" very well might.
>>
>> Other than that, use of the delete key is a very simple solution to 
>> getting
>> pissed about what someone writes. If we hate someone, why not just extend
>> the middle finger and delete? Gets rid of a lot of aggression.
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>> Cheers to all,
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