[Dixielandjazz] Axes :) as carry-on luggage
tcashwigg at aol.com
tcashwigg at aol.com
Sat Jul 29 23:55:22 PDT 2006
Dave:
This is not a personal vendetta against you personally nor the union
you so vehemently defend at all cost, and take personal issue against
me because I do not agree with you and your opinion of your union that
I once was trying to be a proud member of.
If you feel I am letting you have it then obviously the shoe fits
tonight, I did not attack you or the union , merely the idiots that
work for the airlines that are NOW trained by the Government's Homeland
Security, and the FAA and all the other useless knee jerking
beauracracies layered upon layer of incompetency to tell the citizens
of this country what and how to do everything from using toilet paper
to getting on airplanes.
Enough is enough all of us citizens are simply not that ignorant,
trusting, and stupid to believe that we need the government or someone
else to tell us how to do everything in life, and regulate us into
following their idiotic rules that most often fall short of reality.
If you think I am spewing FOOLISHNESS THEN YOU MY FRIEND HAVE
OBVIOUSLY MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT OF MY INPUT.
I deal with this crap very often and if I relied solely upon your
sometimes useful letter as the only method to get my equipment on board
airplanes I would have missed a lot of International concert dates over
the past few years. Some of us actually do travel Internationally and
on airplanes a lot and have more direct input than those who sit at
home an rely upon the information touted by their union from many who
may or may not have actually tried to use the letter issued by them.
For your information I carry a copy of it in all my cases just in case
nothing else works, so far I have not had to rely upon it or use it
once.
That does not mean that I do not appreciate having it or getting a copy
of it from you which I have forwarded to many union and non union
musicians since receiving a copy from you.
Cheers,
Tom Wiggins
-----Original Message-----
From: jazzdude39 at comcast.net
To: tcashwigg at aol.com
Cc: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Axes :) as carry-on luggage
Tom,
You can better than that. Why don't you REALLY let me have it . Some
people just
don't have time for your foolishness,
Mr. know it all !
DH
----- Original Message -----
From: tcashwigg at aol.com
To: jazzdude39 at comcast.net ; Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Axes :) as carry-on luggage
Dear Dave:
I am not venting and did not say one damned word negative about the
damned union and I use your letter and pdf and have sent it on to
thousands of musicians to use union or non union. It is only one
"sometimes" useful tool in an arsenal of things that smart
professional
people should have.
What the HELL ARE YOU AND THE REST OF THE UNION FOLKS GONNA DO WHEN
YOU
GET TO THE GATE AND some jackass idiot refuse to acknowledge your
damned letter form a union he does not care about or may have never
even heard about. These semi trained $7.50 an hour security employe
chimps may or may not even be intelligent and fluent enough in
ENGLISH
TO EVEN BE ABLE TO READ YOIUR LETTER FORM THE UNION MUCH LESS
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAYS.
There are also laws against robbing people in this country with a
gun,
but does that stop the criminal frOm sticking a GUN IN YOUR FACE AND
DEMANDING YOUR DAMNED WALLET, TRY SHOING HIM A PHOTO COPY OF THE LAW
AND SEE IF HE WILL ADHERE TO IT AND LET YOU GO WITHOUT TAKING YOUR
WALLET or worse yet shooting you for being a dumb ass :))
For God's sake man as much as I like you and try to tolerate your
union
bias programmed BS wake up and smell the roses the Union and the
Government is not going to do all your thinking for you and take care
of you just because you pay them union dues and taxes. Sooner or
later if you wish to survive in this life you need to make decisions
for yourself and do what ever it takes to get the job done.
If you don't you will find yourself arriving at your destination with
no instrument to play and it may very well never be returned to you
again to ever play again.
60% of the employed people in THE USA WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT and
most
of us learned along time ago that if they had any real skills and
brains they would have a real productive job so relying upon the
government and Unions to represent our best interest has long since
passed it's usefulness for the most part.
Cheers,
Tom Wiggins
-----Original Message-----
From: jazzdude39 at comcast.net
To: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Fw: [Dixielandjazz] Axes :) as carry-on luggage
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Hanson
To: tcashwigg at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Axes :) as carry-on luggage
Mr. Wiggins seems to vent only when the Union might be involved. Go
ahead, carry
your drums on board, who cares if you go to a secret place where they
touch you
in an improper and impure manner. Just hit delete when I send the
info.
Dave Hanson
----- Original Message -----
From: tcashwigg at aol.com
To: Gluetje1 at aol.com ; jazzdude39 at comcast.net ;
NANCYink at surewest.net
Cc: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Axes :) as carry-on luggage
Allright you guys:
enough of this B.S.
It is high time you all got a bit of moxy and backbone and stop
being
sheep and playing by the so called rules:
Criminals ignore the rules everyday of the week and no matter how
many
Laws they Pass in Congress they are simply ignoring them.
Stop- being sheep and going along with the program administered by
government trained idiots or not even trained and left to their own
stupid interpretations of the law. Just ask the stupid SOB at the
gate if it was their several thousand dollar valued instrument if
they
would check it as baggage? If they say yes then kick them in the
groin
and proceed past them onto the plane in the turmoil, put your
instrument firmly in an overhead bin and sit quietly and act like
nothing ever happened.
If this fails tell them that the instrument is the property of
President Bill Clinton and that he is going to play it with your
band
at the destination engagement and if you don't get there with it
some
heads will roll and some jobs will be lost, and you want their
personal
identification number and Id information so you can have Mr. Clinton
and the FBI and SECRET SERVICE clear You from any personal wrong
doing
in the carrying out of your Patriotic DUTY AND INSTRUCTIONS From MR.
CLINTON PERSONALLY.
Come on folks this is show business, for once in your life think
outside the BOX and tell the dumb asses whatever it takes to get the
job done, after all that is what Washington is doing to us
everyday
of
the week. Defy authority it is the American Way were not most
of
you
living and coming of age in the sixties ??
Stop being a part of the Dumbing down of America.
If at once you don't succeed try try again and do not take no for an
acceptable answer.
Now if you want to make a real impact and be heard on this subject
start a letter writing campaign to every airline President
addressing
this critical issue and tell the dumb asses that you and all ten
members of your band will immediately switch to a more professional
musician friendly airline that will consider your special needs if
they
do not address this issue immediately.
Become your own lobbyist,
Tom Wiggins
-----Original Message-----
From: Gluetje1 at aol.com
To: jazzdude39 at comcast.net; NANCYink at surewest.net
Cc: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Axes :) as carry-on luggage
I shall never again assume that I can carry on my instrument. It is
ultimately always the call of the chief attendant for that flight
whether you
can
board with it no matter if you have no other carry on. My banjo was
cleared by
both security supervisor and an AA supervisor, the letter saying
carry-ons
permitted in my hand, but still turned away at boarding by a b-----
attendant
for no reason other than her mood. Because I then asked if it
would
then be
gate-checked she made sure it came flying off a carousel (case
upside
down)
on arrival. Coming home, attendants on both flights made friendly
comments
and sent me right on down the aisle instrument and all, same
airline,
one of
the planes actually smaller.
There can be no assurance that you will be allowed to board with
it
as
there
is no consistency even within the same airline on same size plane.
So
in
future, when I fly with instrument of any significant size, I will
attempt to
pack and insure it appropriately, ship it, or luggage check it,
and
not
travel
with an instrument unless I understand I may never see it again.
The
only
certain option if you must fly and be absolutely certain you can
carry
a
premium instrument with you is to buy it a seat.
Ginny
In a message dated 7/29/2006 5:00:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jazzdude39 at comcast.net writes:
Nancy,
The agreement negotiated between the American Federation of
Musicians
to
allow musicians to carry on board any flight, their instrument, as
long as it
fits in the overhead bin has reached a roadblock. This was with the
National
Transportation Safety Board but Homeland Security is now in
charge.
I
have been
told that the AFM is again negotiating to obtain a new agreement.
Currently
some airlines will honor it, but Delta will not.
I will post the new agreement when it is in effect. In the meantime
call
your carrier and see if they will allow you to carry the third bag
on
(your instrument). If you have only two which include the ax, you
might
be
ok.
Dave Hanson
Trombone
Atlanta
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