[Dixielandjazz] Re Roots of Jazz and Blues

[tcashwigg at aol.com]

It did indeed Mike,  and there were no doubt many cross cultural 
influences picked up in the development of Jazz, as it continued to 
evolve long before we even called it Jazz or Jass  etc.   I never mean 
to be little any players contributions to the music, but I get upset 
when we overlook the most important aspects of the sources of the music 
that gave us what we all adopted and nurtured as Jazz.    The Literati 
and preservationist often ignore the facts and write educated opinions 
of their understanding of it as FACT. and it often is not or a far 
stretch of the facts at best.   They are recognized experts, but by 
whom ?   I have been fortunate enough to meet and work with many early 
Black Jazzers who tell a totally different story about many scenarios 
in the predominately white written books.

It should all just be Music, and let every culture flavor it any way 
they wish to do so.  This is the "Age of Burger King Jazz"
  Have it Your Way !

Cheers,

Tom Wiggins
Saint Gabriel's Celestial BRASS BAND
STILL DE BUNKING  THE THEORY THAT BLACK AMERICANS DON'T PLAY DIXIELAND 
MUSIC.
Come out and hear us Play Traditional Jazz that ya'll call Dixieland.  
Yes it sounds different, but there are many folks of all colors around 
the world that like it a lot better than straight ole Dixieland played 
in the preservation mode.




-----Original Message-----
From: mike at railroadstjazzwest.com
Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re Roots of Jazz and Blues

    I've always believed that it went back farther than New Orleans. I 
think it goes back to Africa; after that where the slaves(who sang the 
field hollers) came from. There is also a large Western European 
element to jazz. 
 
 Mike 
 
  
 D and R Hardie wrote: 
  > Why not? Your second suggestion re gospel singing and jazz is almost 
 > certainly true - see the Ancestry of Jazz. As for rural roots of 
jazz, > if we assume the blues a necessary component of early jazz it 
probably > came to New Orleans via the rural cornfield/cottonfield 
shouts and the > riverside coonjine songs. However Jelly Roll said the 
blues were played > in New Orleans before he was born, so it could have 
evolved there, with > the influx of workers from the plantations after 
the Civil war. 
 > Dan Hardie 
 > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~darnhard/EarlyJazzHistory.html 
 > http://tinyurl.com/nqaup 
 > > On Saturday, July 15, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Anton Crouch wrote: 
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