[Dixielandjazz] Geneva Bands

jakpiano jakpiano at bluewin.ch
Fri Feb 24 03:35:27 PST 2006



Hi Steve,



Thank you for your kind words. I communicated them to the builder of the 
Site Jacques Fleury (base) who already in 1952 obtained awards in Zurich. He 
is also the "Manager" of the "Geneva-Jazz-Club-Basement-with-50 chairs" 
operating Friday nights and named "Le Contretemps" (off-beat). The pianist 
of tonight's band ( Jean Louis Muller) is the person who took the students 
of Henri Chaix - the pride of Geneva - when he stopped taking new students.

Cheers,
Jacques



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>   1. Improvising Traditional Jazz (Dan Augustine)
>   2. Re: Inserting lines from another song into improvisations.
>      (Bill Haesler)
>   3. Quoting (Don)
>   4. Tunes with identical chord progressions. (Laurence Swain)
>   5. RE: Quoting (Jon Stutler)
>   6. English (pat ladd)
>   7. Re: English (Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon)
>   8. RE: English (Tom Belmessieri)
>   9. Re: English (tcashwigg at aol.com)
>  10. Re: Tunes with identical chord progressions. (Bert Joss)
>  11. Re: Quoting (Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis)
>  12. Re: Tunes with identical chord progressions. (Tom Belmessieri)
>  13. Jazz in Geneva (Steve barbone)
>  14. Re: Quoting (Cees van den Heuvel)
>  15. Mardi Gras Boston.... (Brian Sheehan)
>  16. RE: Tunes with identical chord progressions. (Bill Biffle)
>  17. RE: Quoting (Hal Vickery)
>  18. Re: English (Judy Eames)
>  19. RE: Tunes with identical chord progressions. (Hal Vickery)
>  20. Re: Quoting (John McClernan)
>  21. Re: Quoting (rahberry at comcast.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:26:33 -0600
> From: Dan Augustine <ds.augustine at mail.utexas.edu>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Improvising Traditional Jazz
> To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <p06230902c023c71742e6@[192.168.0.100]>
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> DJMLers and others--
>     Thought i'd give a plug to Bill Clark (leader and tuba-player
> with the Queen City Jazz Band of Denver), who's got a new book out
> called _Improvising Traditional Jazz_ (which i just ordered for $40).
> You can read about it in _Jazz Notes_ (Queen City Jazz Foundation,
> Winter 2006), or at
> http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:KiJdECg3gtoJ:www.dmamusic.org/qcjfoundation/jnnewsletter.pdf+%22Improvising+Traditional+Jazz%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&lr=lang_en
> (the HTML version of a PDF).
>     Here's part of what the article says:
>
> "Bill Clark, longtime leader of the Queen City Jazz Band, has published a
> book titled Improvising Traditional Jazz. A portion of the proceeds from
> sale of the book will go to the Queen City Jazz Foundation. Bill describes 
> his
> book below.
>     I have been teaching young people to play traditional jazz for
> many years. My
> new book, Improvising Traditional Jazz, contains many the exercises and 
> ideas
> that have proven helpful to my students. The book has four parts: The
> first discusses
> some specific musical ideas that were given to us by great musicians
> like Louis Armstrong
> and Bix Beiderbecke. Part Two turns those ideas into ten
> easy-to-learn exercises. Part
> Three features nine typical traditional jazz chord progressions with
> a CD that repeats
> the nine exercises at slow and at fast tempos so the student can practice.
> Part Four contains fourteen lead sheets and a second CD. Each of the
> lead sheets
> represents a typical traditional jazz chord progression. The CD has
> on it music from
> each of the lead sheets played by the Queen City Jazz Band.
> Improvising Traditional Jazz
> is not a substitute for diligent practice. It is an efficient way to
> organize your practice
> time. I wrote it for musicians who are professionals and want to get
> better. It is
> also written for less accomplished musicians who can read music, who
> understand chord
> symbols, and who want to learn how to sound good when playing a
> traditional jazz solo.
> The book is 38 pages, comes with 2 CD's, and costs $40.00 postpaid."
> (From H H Zeno Productions; P. O. Box 1273; Littleton, CO  80160)
>
>     I've heard (and greatly enjoyed) Bill play tuba with his band for
> years at Sacramento, but didn't know about this newsletter until my
> buddy Larmon Maddox gave it to me last week.  It has a lot of good
> stuff in it. QCJB's website is at
> http://www.dmamusic.org/qcjb/index.html
>
>     Dan
> -- 
> **-----------------------------------------------------------------------**
> **  Dan Augustine  --  Austin, Texas  --  ds.augustine at mail.utexas.edu
> **    "Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind
> **     is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, 
> but
> **    the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza."  --  Dave Barry
> **-----------------------------------------------------------------------**
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:39:32 +1100
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Inserting lines from another song into
> improvisations.
> To: <charlie at easysounds.com>, David Richoux <tubaman at tubatoast.com>
> Cc: dixieland jazz mail list <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <C02468B4.D3D8%bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
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>
>> Some jazz authors call it 'interpolation', and it's done all the time;
> sometimes spontaneously and often by design.<
>
> "Interpolation".
>
> Many thanks Charlie,
> THAT is the word I was looking for.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:51:10 -0800
> From: Don <jdrobertson at att.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
> To: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <43FE203E.5040602 at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> For some reason, hearing "quotes" in a jazz solo always tickles me.
> Maybe it's an ego thing, I'm proud of my ear and memory, which are not
> bad for a wannabe but neverwuz musician.
>
> Don Robertson
> Napa, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:09:51 -0500
> From: "Laurence Swain" <l.swain at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
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>
> Bill Haesler introduced a new subject, asking about tunes having identical 
> chord
> progressions throughout -- but let's not include "standard blues" numbers 
> here.
>
> The two that immediately come to mind are ones I first heard Fats Waller 
> do 60 or so
> years ago: "It's a Sin to Tell a Lie" and "I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and 
> Write Myself a
> Letter".
>
> Larry Swain
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:22:00 +0000
> From: "Jon Stutler" <jon at razzmajazz.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> Tricky subject, that of "quotes".  Some leaders hate and will not allow 
> them at all. Others seem to love them and encourage them.  I'm like a 
> member of the audience who gets a charge out of one when I hear recognize 
> the phrase and appreciate how it was used.  Over use, of course, tends to 
> be obnoxious.
>
> Jon Stutler, M.Ed.
> 817-233-4149
> Fax 817-560-0708
> www.razzmajazz.como
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Don" <jdrobertson at att.net>
> Sent: 2/23/2006 2:51 PM
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
>
>
>
>
> For some reason, hearing "quotes" in a jazz solo always tickles me.
> Maybe it's an ego thing, I'm proud of my ear and memory, which are not
> bad for a wannabe but neverwuz musician.
>
> Don Robertson
> Napa, CA
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:39:40 -0000
> From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd at btinternet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] English
> To: "jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <010201c638c1$a6ac6f80$0c00a8c0 at home81j5felsgn>
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>
> Hi All,
>
> you have probably heard that the BBC, sometime ago, introduced `Struttin 
> with some barbecue` as `Strutting with a piece of Barbecue`.
>
> Today, playing some old dance band stuff I found the Stars fell on Alabama 
> lyric sung as
>
> Never dreamed in my imagination
> a situation so heavenly
> A fairyland that only we can enter
> And in the centre `You and I, dear.
>
> The true Brit singer couldn`t force himself to say `You and me` to make 
> the rhyme with `heavenly`
>
> Education is a fine thing.
>
>
> Pip pip old things
>
> Pat  :-)
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:54:15 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> From: "Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon" <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] English
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
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>>>>The true Brit singer couldn`t force himself to say `You and me` to make 
>>>>the rhyme
> with `heavenly'<<<
>
> It's a shame he didn't force himself, because it wouldn't only have 
> rhymed, it would have been grammatically correct.  How I cringe when "I" 
> is wrongly used in place of "me."  And on television, on the news, even!,
>
> --
> Etc,
>
> Fr M J "Mike" Logsdon
> Special Assistant to the Presiding Archbishop
> North American Old Roman Catholic Church (Utrecht Succession)
> www.naorc.org
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:58:10 -0800
> From: "Tom Belmessieri" <tbelmo at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] English
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <BAY115-F22722E147EB826BFF56049D2F20 at phx.gbl>
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> I wonder how they'd sing, "Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby?"
>
> Tom B.
>
> -----------
>>From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd at btinternet.com>
>>To: "jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>>Subject: [Dixielandjazz] English
>>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:39:40 -0000
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>you have probably heard that the BBC, sometime ago, introduced `Struttin
>>with some barbecue` as `Strutting with a piece of Barbecue`.
>>
>>Today, playing some old dance band stuff I found the Stars fell on Alabama
>>lyric sung as
>>
>>Never dreamed in my imagination
>>a situation so heavenly
>>A fairyland that only we can enter
>>And in the centre `You and I, dear.
>>
>>The true Brit singer couldn`t force himself to say `You and me` to make 
>>the
>>rhyme with `heavenly`
>>
>>Education is a fine thing.
>>
>>
>>Pip pip old things
>>
>>Pat  :-)
>
>
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>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>17/02/2006
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>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:13:45 -0500
> From: tcashwigg at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] English
> To: mjl at ix.netcom.com, dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <8C806DD8C1E0031-1104-755 at FWM-M29.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> 'Tis a British thing No doubt.. stiff upper lip and all that rot you
> know :))
>
> Try pronouncing YOU and ME with a stiff upper lip and see what happens.
> NO No NO no puckering lad :))
>
> Tally Ho mates.
>
> Tommy O' wiggins
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:54:15 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] English
>
>    >>>The true Brit singer couldn`t force himself to say `You and me`
> to make the
> rhyme
> with `heavenly'<<<
>
> It's a shame he didn't force himself, because it wouldn't only have
> rhymed, it
> would have been grammatically correct.  How I cringe when "I" is
> wrongly used in
> place of "me."  And on television, on the news, even!,
>
> --
> Etc,
>
> Fr M J "Mike" Logsdon
> Special Assistant to the Presiding Archbishop
> North American Old Roman Catholic Church (Utrecht Succession)
> www.naorc.org
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:20:23 -0500
> From: jaroberts at webtv.net (Bert Joss)
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
> To: l.swain at comcast.net (Laurence Swain),
> dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <252-43FE3527-671 at storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
>
> How about "Has Anybody Seen My Gal"("Five Foot Two") and "Please Don't
> Talk About Me When I'm Gone"? And the boppers did it with dozens of
> tunes.
>   Bert Joss
>
> jaroberts at webtv.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:22:21 -0600
> From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
> <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
> To: <jdrobertson at att.net>, "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <004001c638c7$9e490230$5df5b844 at COMPACSR1320NX>
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> reply-type=response
>
> Actually I don't care for them and if you ever play with someone a lot who
> uses them then you know what and where it's coming.  It was clever in the
> 60s but personally I don't care for them.  It breaks up the spontaneity 
> and
> flow of the solo.
> Larry
> St. Louis
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don" <jdrobertson at att.net>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:51 PM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
>
>
>> For some reason, hearing "quotes" in a jazz solo always tickles me. 
>> Maybe
>> it's an ego thing, I'm proud of my ear and memory, which are not bad for 
>> a
>> wannabe but neverwuz musician.
>>
>> Don Robertson
>> Napa, CA
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:24:53 -0800
> From: "Tom Belmessieri" <tbelmo at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
> To: jaroberts at webtv.net, l.swain at comcast.net,
> dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <BAY115-F28483275A3715E8A742E1BD2F20 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> Beat me to it, Bert.  I was also going to mention, in that same list of
> tunes...
>
> Please Don't Talk About Me When I'm Gone
> Five Foot Two (A part)
> The Charleston (A part)
> Clarinet Marmalade (Chorus)
>
> But are we talking complete tunes only?
>
>
> Tom B.
>
> -----------
>>From: jaroberts at webtv.net (Bert Joss)
>>To: l.swain at comcast.net (Laurence Swain),dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>>Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
>>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:20:23 -0500
>>
>>How about "Has Anybody Seen My Gal"("Five Foot Two") and "Please Don't
>>Talk About Me When I'm Gone"? And the boppers did it with dozens of
>>tunes.
>>    Bert Joss
>>
>>jaroberts at webtv.net
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:45:08 -0500
> From: Steve barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz in Geneva
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <C023A524.5118%barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Jacques Covo at "jakpiano" <jakpiano at bluewin.ch> wrote
>
>> Dear All,
>
>> To listen to the music of these bands the link is:
>>
>> http://www.chercheorchestre.com/content/view/85/71/
>
>> Regards
>> Jacques Covo
>> GVA Trad Jazz 6tet
>
> Hi Jacques:
>
> Thanks for the post. Surfed and listened to the web site for a while. 
> Sounds
> like a very vibrant jazz scene, of all jazz/music genres, in Geneva.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:12:53 +0100
> From: "Cees van den Heuvel" <heu at bart.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <000c01c638ce$acc52ee0$6401a8c0 at cees1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
> I hate it. It shows a lack of personal creativity.
> It tells: I've got nothing to say, so I"ll repeat
> someting that  better improvisators than I once said.
> So stay away from it and do your own thing!
> E.g: I'm able to copy Armstrong solo's and intro's,
> but will alway refuse to do so. I know my improvisations
> are not as good, but the're mine! And that is what jazz is
> all about. I want to be a creative jazz musician, not a
> copyer. If  I don't succeed, so be it. It will add to the
> glory of the really great ones.
> On the other hand: when the audience likes it, in
> an entertainment point of view.....life is difficult.
>
> Cees van den Heuvel
> http://www.revivaljassband.nl
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:32:01 -0500
> From: "Brian Sheehan" <brianasheehan at msn.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Mardi Gras Boston....
> To: Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <BAY106-F1034B028DF68FE1D457B09AEF20 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:14:50 -0700
> From: "Bill Biffle" <bbiffle at brgcc.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
> To: "'Bert Joss'" <jaroberts at webtv.net>, "'Laurence Swain'"
> <l.swain at comcast.net>, <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <000001c638d7$55d62720$2000a8c0 at bill>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> "Struttin' With Some Bar-be-Que" and "Is It True What They Say About 
> Dixie?"
>
> "I Got a Feeling I'm Falling" and "Blue Turning Grey Over You" have the 
> same
> A section - speaking of Fats.
>
> Bill Biffle
> Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
> Duke City Jazz Band
> bbiffle at brgcc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Bert Joss
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:20 PM
> To: Laurence Swain; dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
>
> How about "Has Anybody Seen My Gal"("Five Foot Two") and "Please Don't
> Talk About Me When I'm Gone"? And the boppers did it with dozens of
> tunes.
>   Bert Joss
>
> jaroberts at webtv.net
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:16:48 -0600
> From: "Hal Vickery" <hvickery at svs.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <000901c638d7$9a9c0c80$61a00f18 at half3c5e1da4be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Unless you're Sonny Rollins (but that's MKOM).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Jon Stutler
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:22 PM
> To: DJML
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
>
> Tricky subject, that of "quotes".  Some leaders hate and will not allow 
> them
> at all. Others seem to love them and encourage them.  I'm like a member of
> the audience who gets a charge out of one when I hear recognize the phrase
> and appreciate how it was used.  Over use, of course, tends to be 
> obnoxious.
>
>
> Jon Stutler, M.Ed.
> 817-233-4149
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Don" <jdrobertson at att.net>
> Sent: 2/23/2006 2:51 PM
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
>
>
>
>
> For some reason, hearing "quotes" in a jazz solo always tickles me.
> Maybe it's an ego thing, I'm proud of my ear and memory, which are not
> bad for a wannabe but neverwuz musician.
>
> Don Robertson
> Napa, CA
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> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:23:28 -0000
> From: "Judy Eames" <jude at judyeames.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] English
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> Tom Belmessieri asked How "they" sing "Is You Is"
>
> Just remember some of us is "they" and I sings it as writ:-)
>
>
> Jude (feeling invisible again)
>
> Judy Eames
> Kaminsky Connection
> Aston, Oxfordshire
> UK
> www.judyeames.co.uk
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Belmessieri" <tbelmo at hotmail.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] English
>
>
> C>
>> -----------
>>>From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd at btinternet.com>
>>>To: "jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>>>Subject: [Dixielandjazz] English
>>>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:39:40 -0000
>>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>you have probably heard that the BBC, sometime ago, introduced `Struttin
>>>with some barbecue` as `Strutting with a piece of Barbecue`.
>>>
>>>Today, playing some old dance band stuff I found the Stars fell on 
>>>Alabama
>>>lyric sung as
>>>
>>>Never dreamed in my imagination
>>>a situation so heavenly
>>>A fairyland that only we can enter
>>>And in the centre `You and I, dear.
>>>
>>>The true Brit singer couldn`t force himself to say `You and me` to make
>>>the rhyme with `heavenly`
>>>
>>>Education is a fine thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>Pip pip old things
>>>
>>>Pat  :-)
>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:24:59 -0600
> From: "Hal Vickery" <hvickery at svs.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> Again, I'm not a player, just a listener, but (speaking of Fats), how 
> about
> "Honeysuckle Rose" and "Sweet Sue (Just You)."  They sure seem close to 
> me.
>
> Hal Vickery
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill Biffle
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:15 PM
> To: 'Bert Joss'; 'Laurence Swain'; dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
>
> "Struttin' With Some Bar-be-Que" and "Is It True What They Say About 
> Dixie?"
>
> "I Got a Feeling I'm Falling" and "Blue Turning Grey Over You" have the 
> same
> A section - speaking of Fats.
>
> Bill Biffle
> Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
> Duke City Jazz Band
> bbiffle at brgcc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Bert Joss
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:20 PM
> To: Laurence Swain; dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Tunes with identical chord progressions.
>
> How about "Has Anybody Seen My Gal"("Five Foot Two") and "Please Don't
> Talk About Me When I'm Gone"? And the boppers did it with dozens of
> tunes.
>   Bert Joss
>
> jaroberts at webtv.net
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> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:40:20 -0500
> From: John McClernan <mcclernan1 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
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> Don,
> I worked with one trombonist (surprise!) who tried to jam as many
> quotes as possible, appropriate or not, into each of his solos. The
> guys in the band chuckled at first, but it grew tiresome rather
> quickly and we felt it was just smarmy and 'clever' rather than
> inventive or creative. One fella got so fed up with it, he finally
> spoke up and said, "Hey, if you want to quote something, how about
> quoting the song we are playing?"
>
> That finally put a stop to it. It forced the guy  to change how he
> "composed" with his instrument and ultimately became a much better
> soloist. As in most things, moderation is the key. Quotes can be used
> tastefully, or shoe-horned in, merely because the chords fit. If one
> more trombone player quotes the original Star Trek TV theme over a C
> to Ab chord change, I'm gonna scream!
>
> My 2¢
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Don wrote:
>
>> For some reason, hearing "quotes" in a jazz solo always tickles
>> me.  Maybe it's an ego thing, I'm proud of my ear and memory, which
>> are not bad for a wannabe but neverwuz musician.
>>
>> Don Robertson
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:46:55 +0000
> From: rahberry at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Quoting
> To: John McClernan <mcclernan1 at comcast.net>,
> dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID:
> <022420060046.5266.43FE577F00073E39000014922200734830979D9D0A0D080E9D at comcast.net>
>
>
> I heard Jim Cullum give a talk once in which he stated that if any 
> musician in his band used quotes, he was out of the band.
>   Rae Ann
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: John McClernan <mcclernan1 at comcast.net>
>> Don,
>> I worked with one trombonist (surprise!) who tried to jam as many
>> quotes as possible, appropriate or not, into each of his solos. The
>> guys in the band chuckled at first, but it grew tiresome rather
>> quickly and we felt it was just smarmy and 'clever' rather than
>> inventive or creative. One fella got so fed up with it, he finally
>> spoke up and said, "Hey, if you want to quote something, how about
>> quoting the song we are playing?"
>>
>> That finally put a stop to it. It forced the guy  to change how he
>> "composed" with his instrument and ultimately became a much better
>> soloist. As in most things, moderation is the key. Quotes can be used
>> tastefully, or shoe-horned in, merely because the chords fit. If one
>> more trombone player quotes the original Star Trek TV theme over a C
>> to Ab chord change, I'm gonna scream!
>>
>> My 2¢
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Don wrote:
>>
>> > For some reason, hearing "quotes" in a jazz solo always tickles
>> > me.  Maybe it's an ego thing, I'm proud of my ear and memory, which
>> > are not bad for a wannabe but neverwuz musician.
>> >
>> > Don Robertson
>>
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