[Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music?

[tcashwigg at aol.com]

Much of it still is in many parts of Europe as well,  I  have played 
Jazz Festivals with the likes of  James Brown, Little Richard, Bo 
Diddley,  Dionne WarwicK, Chuck Berry, Van Morrison, Fats, Domino, 
Chaka Kahn, Patti Labelle, Sister Sledge, Solomon Burke, The 
Commodores, Kool & The Gang, Brides of Funkenstein, B.B. King, Buddy 
Guy, Ike Turner, and many others with all of them being billed as Jazz 
 from the USA.   We have also of course played with many legitimate Jazz 
artists of many sub genres of Jazz as well.

I don't have a problem with it, so long as they keep paying us well and 
selling out the festivals and providing us with great appreciative 
audience to work to.   I too am from the school  of thought that Jazz 
encompasses a lot more than just Traditional or Dixieland and I do like 
and appreciate many styles of it.


Cheers,

Tom Wiggins

-----Original Message-----
From: nmboym at 012.net.il
To: tcashwigg at aol.com
Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music?

    Funny thing, that generation matter: when I was young, any Western 
music was considered jazz in Poland, including Rock&Roll. It took me a 
while to realize it was not (it was, after all, my generation's music). 
The learning process included running away from my boarding school to 
see Elvis Presley films, only to learn I did not like the music. So 
I've stayed with jazz. It took me another few years to realize that 
there was a lot of "Unreal Jazz" (a title of a Hugues Panassie article) 
- Miles Davis, Brubeck, Coltrane - and stick to OKOM. 
 Cheers 
 ----- Original Message ----- From: <tcashwigg at aol.com> 
 To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:19 PM 
 Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music? 
 
 > 
 > Nope ! does not lend itself well to Marketing, and if a newbie heard 
  > some MUSIC that they did not like and that was their only experience 
at 
 > say a live music event, they would probably turn away and not go to 
 > another one. :)) 
 > 
 > Would be the same situation of just calling it generic "BEER", the 
  > advertising industry would just lose far too much money and jobs, 
the 
 > newbies like to Discover things and cherish them as something they 
 > found all on their own without mom & dad forcing them to accept it. 
 > 
  > Sort of like many of my generation took on Rock & Roll to get away 
from 
  > many of those so called Hep Cats who looked really funny to us at 
that 
  > age, not to mention how funny they dressed all trying to look like 
Mr. 
 > Rogers, or Andy Williams. :)) I guess Woody Allen is still trying to 
 > look like that. 
 > 
  > Real Musicians and Successful entertainers have mostly tended to 
dress 
 > for success and that meant dress up better than your audiences if 
 > possible, or at least suitable to be in their company. I never saw 
 > Louis Armstrong without a suit, and also never saw John Lee Hooker 
 > without a Suit on, even working in his garden. Hey even Doctors put 
  > on Uniforms to identify them as Doctors and add to their respect, 
would 
  > you go into any hospital and let some guy who looked like a cabbie 
or 
 > plumber operate on you ? :)) I don't think so. 
 > 
  > I say let's put some class back into the Music and on the stage and 
we 
  > will see some class come back to the audience, and maybe even start 
to 
 > attract an audience again. :)) There are a lot more of them than us 
  > folks, and J.C. Penny said the Customer is always Right, and I 
believe 
 > in that theory even if I know the customers is dead wrong, so what! 
  > he/she paid so we should do all we can within reason to make them 
happy 
  > and keep 'em coming back, there are of course a few exceptions to 
this 
 > as we have discussed on here before. :)) 
 > 
  > Leave them with a pleasing and good experience, "That is what they 
came 
 > for" unless of course they are throwing rotten veggies at you.! 
 > 
 > Cheers, 
 > 
  > Tom "Do it right and get the Hell out of Town with the Money" 
Wiggins 
 > 
 > -----Original Message----- 
 > From: DWSI at aol.com 
 > To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com 
 > Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 3:49 AM 
 > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music? 
 > 
 > All of the talk about getting the youth into OKOM seems to assume 
 > our 
 > musical category is a sub category of the bigger category generally 
 > called 
 > "jazz." 
 > At Rutgers Unviersity, where I manage the adult education courses in 
 > writing, 
  > (when I'm not playing ragtime piano), one teacher came up with a 
course 
 > 
 > called Post-Genre Poetry. In it, he assumes that poetry has moved 
 > beyond genres, 
 > 
 > or types or categories of music, and now poets are more or less free 
 > agents. 
 > As I think about it, isn't that what has happened to an awful lot of 
 > art 
  > forms? We've heard of fusion, and cross-over, but what if there 
isn't 
 > any more 
 > need for the traditional genres? What if it's just "music" from here 
 > on? Does 
 > this work for anyone out there? 
 > 
 > Dan (backup piano) Spink 
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