[Dixielandjazz] Fw: Post-Genre Music?

[Marek Boym]

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From: "Marek Boym" <nmboym at 012.net.il>
To: <tcashwigg at aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music?


> Funny thing, that generation matter: when I was young, any Western music 
> was considered jazz in Poland, including Rock&Roll.  It took me a while to 
> realize it was not (it was, after all, my generation's music).  The 
> learning process included running away from my boarding school to see 
> Elvis Presley films, only to learn I did not like the music.  So I've 
> stayed with jazz. It took me another few years to realize that there was a 
> lot of "Unreal Jazz" (a title of a Hugues Panassie article) - Miles Davis, 
> Brubeck, Coltrane - and stick to OKOM.
> Cheers
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <tcashwigg at aol.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music?
>
>
>>
>> Nope !   does not lend itself well to Marketing, and if a newbie heard
>> some MUSIC that they did not like and that was their only experience at
>> say a live music event, they would probably turn away and not go to
>> another one. :))
>>
>> Would be the same situation of just calling it generic "BEER",  the
>> advertising industry would just lose far too much money and jobs, the
>> newbies like to Discover things and cherish them as something they
>> found all on their own without mom & dad forcing them to accept it.
>>
>> Sort of like many of my generation took on Rock & Roll to get away from
>> many of those so called Hep Cats who looked really funny to us at that
>> age, not to mention how funny they dressed all trying to look like Mr.
>> Rogers, or Andy Williams. :))   I guess Woody Allen is still trying to
>> look like that.
>>
>> Real Musicians and Successful entertainers have mostly tended to dress
>> for success and that meant dress up better than your audiences if
>> possible, or at least suitable to be in their company.   I never saw
>> Louis Armstrong without a suit, and also never saw John Lee Hooker
>> without a Suit on, even working in his garden.   Hey even Doctors put
>> on Uniforms to identify them as Doctors and add to their respect, would
>> you go into any hospital and let some guy who looked like a cabbie or
>> plumber operate on you ? :))  I don't think so.
>>
>> I say let's put some class back into the Music and on the stage and we
>> will see some class come back to the audience, and maybe even start to
>> attract an audience again. :))   There are a lot more of them than us
>> folks, and J.C. Penny said the Customer is always Right, and I believe
>> in that theory even if I know the customers is dead wrong, so what!
>> he/she paid so we should do all we can within reason to make them happy
>> and keep 'em coming back,  there are of course a few exceptions to this
>> as we have discussed on here before.  :))
>>
>> Leave them with a pleasing and good experience, "That is what they came
>> for" unless of course they are throwing rotten veggies at you.!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom "Do it right and get the Hell out of Town with the Money"  Wiggins
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DWSI at aol.com
>> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>> Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 3:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Post-Genre Music?
>>
>>    All of the talk about getting the youth into OKOM seems to assume
>> our
>> musical category is a sub category of the bigger category generally
>> called
>> "jazz."
>> At Rutgers Unviersity, where I manage the adult education courses in
>> writing,
>> (when I'm not playing ragtime piano), one teacher came up with a course
>>
>> called Post-Genre Poetry. In it, he assumes that poetry has moved
>> beyond genres,
>>
>> or types or categories of music, and now poets are more or less free
>> agents.
>> As  I think about it, isn't that what has happened to an awful lot of
>> art
>> forms?  We've heard of fusion, and cross-over, but what if there isn't
>> any more
>> need for  the traditional genres? What if it's just "music" from here
>> on? Does
>> this work  for anyone out there?
>>
>> Dan (backup piano) Spink
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