[Dixielandjazz] Charlie Hayden was Chet Baker

Jon Stutler Jon at Razzmajazz.com
Sun Dec 3 20:13:27 PST 2006


Me, too.  I've copied some of C. Baker's style on soprano sax.... Nice and
mellow.  I just love it.

Thanks,
Jon Stutler, Razzmajazz
Office/Mobile 817-233-4149
 
 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike [mailto:mike at railroadstjazzwest.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:17 PM
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Charlie Hayden was Chet Baker
> 
> I wish I coulda been there.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Steve Barbone wrote:
> > Gluetje1 at aol.com  . . . Ginny wrote (polite snip)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Reason I said that is circa 1960, a then young Charlie 
> Hayden played 
> > at the Five Spot on Cooper Square in NYC with Ornette 
> Coleman and Don 
> > Cherry. I went there to hear this new, free jazz, music, 
> with bassist 
> > Chuck Traeger who was my best gig buddy at the time and 
> house bassist at Nicks.
> > 
> > Place was packed. Every jazz player in NYC who wasn't gigging that 
> > night was there to hear Hayden and Ornette Coleman play a free form 
> > jazz where whom ever was soloing dictated what chord 
> patterns, and/or 
> > melodic line would be played. Also in the audience were 
> teachers from 
> > Juilliard, various classical musicians and a few modern 
> artist painters and beat poets.
> > 
> > Traeger introduced me to Hayden who was petrified at seeing 
> all these 
> > great musicians, but that didn't affect his playing. He was 
> superb. He 
> > kept his eyes tightly closed in concentration most of the time.
> > 
> > During his solo portion of a tune when he was responsible for the 
> > tune's direction, he opened an eye to see a gentlemen up on 
> the stand 
> > with him. The guy was bending over and had his ear to the F 
> hole on the bass.
> > 
> > Hayden said to Ornette: "Hey Ornette, what the hell is 
> this?  Get this 
> > shit head off the band stand."
> > 
> > Ornette broke up and replied: "You idiot, that Leonard Bernstein."
> > 
> > What they played was very far out . . . still is. I neither 
> liked nor 
> > understood it then and told Traeger that. He said: "Maybe your ears 
> > aren't ready for it yet." Interesting way of looking at it.
> > 
> > My ears aren't ready for it now either, but at least I 
> understand it. 
> > I also realize that the group in the Five Spot that night 
> was the most "together"
> > group I ever heard. They really listened to each other, perhaps 
> > because they had to in order to figure out where the tune was going.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Steve Barbone
> > 
> > 
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