[Dixielandjazz] Disk Makers

Russ Guarino russg at redshift.com
Tue Apr 11 20:41:31 PDT 2006


Tom,

Are they printed or paper covered?

Russ

tcashwigg at aol.com wrote:

> I have mine made at Discmakers in sleeves rather than jewel cases which
> always get broken in the mail and which also are a lot heavier and cost
> more in postage to mail them, not to mention paying extra for the
> protective shipping containers which are also heavier and increase the
> postage but still usually find them delivered with broken jewel cases
> inside. :((
>
> I order mine 2000 at a time for $.99 each retail ready  and sell them
> for $10.00 each and make plenty of profit that even allows me to use
> them as Business cards if I want to, and send them free to radio
> stations all over the world and festival talent buyers.
>
> End of Cd economics lecture.
>
> Tom Wiggins
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Guarino <russg at redshift.com>
> To: Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com; verbose at daktel.com
> Sent: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:59:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Disk Makers
>
>    Larry,
>
> [ I always seem to be one step behind you ].    That's what I use now.
>
> There is a guy in town who prints on the CD and is reasonably price.
> He has an
> automatic machine that picks up the CD, places it in a slot, prints on
> it, then
> picks it up and puts it in a separate stack.
>
> So, if I order 20 copies, he reproduces the CD, Prints it on all 20,
> puts it
> into a crystal case and charges me $3.00 each.  I put in the case cover
> at
> home.  I sell them for $15.00, so, life is good and no paper wrinkles.
>
> Russ Guarino, Clarinet you know what.
>
> "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis" wrote:
>
> > I was talking about a direct to CD printer -- no paper label -  They
> are
> > actually cheap if you watch sales for an Epson R320.  They have a
> cheaper
> > one too I think it's a R220 but don't quote me on that..  The CD goes
> in a
> > special drawer and the printer prints it.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Russ Guarino" <russg at redshift.com>
> > To: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis"
> <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> > Cc: <verbose at daktel.com>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Disk Makers
> >
> > > Musicos,
> > >
> > > One problem I found with printing labels for CDs was that when I
> put them
> > > on the
> > > CD I would often get a wrinkle that I could not fix.
> > >
> > > Russ Guarino, Clarinet Maven
> > >
> > > "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis" wrote:
> > >
> > >> There is a printer / CD copier that sells for about $1800.  I don't
> > >> remember
> > >> the company right off hand but it prints on printable CD's which
> sell for
> > >> less than 50 cents and will print and copy 50 at a wack un
> attended.
> > >> With
> > >> one of those a company could take your CD and reproduce it with a
> fifty
> > >> cents profit on each CD.  Not bad considering it's almost a hands
> off
> > >> operation with nothing more to do than change ink cartridges and
> reload
> > >> the
> > >> copier every so often.  I would bet that you might not even have
> to pay
> > >> those pesky ASCAP fees with this guy who probably operates out of
> his
> > >> basement or better still invest the money in your own machine,
> plug it
> > >> into
> > >> a computer and watch it do it's thing.
> > >>
> > >> I haven't used one of these machines and don't know how long it
> takes or
> > >> their quality but perhaps someone on the list has and can give us a
> > >> review.
> > >>
> > >> If you want to go cheap you can buy an Epson printer that will
> print CD's
> > >> (Epson Stylus R320 @$110) and with a little effort and artwork and
> a
> > >> computer you can turn out your own for less than a dollar each and
> with
> > >> what
> > >> you save you might even want to pay the ASCAP fees as well as pay
> you
> > >> pretty
> > >> good too.  The CD photo for the jewel case can be done as a fold
> over for
> > >> about a quarter each on photo paper with the same printer.  So it
> costs
> > >> you
> > >> $0.50 for a CD, $0.10 for ink, $0.20 for photo paper and about
> $0.15 for
> > >> a
> > >> jewel case plus your time.
> > >> Larry
> > >> St. Louis
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Lowell Busching" <verbose at daktel.com>
> > >> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:51 AM
> > >> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Disk Makers
> > >>
> > >> > Can someone on the list confirm for me the validity of a news
> article
> > >> > in
> > >> > the business section of a local area paper over the weekend
> concerning
> > >> > the
> > >> > company called "Disk Makers" head quartered in Pennsauren, N.J.
> with
> > >> > their
> > >> > plant outside Philly?  Apparently they have been around for a
> long time
> > >> > both as record makers and now CD's and making and labeling
> products for
> > >> > Independents and others.  Is this the company used by bands to
> produce
> > >> > the CD's sold to "unsuspecting" customers at the festivals and
> jazz
> > >> > parties for $10-20 ?  If not, they should be based on the last
> > >> > paragraph
> > >> > of the article.
> > >> >
> > >> > Quote:
> > >> > In its factory outside Philadelphia, the company manufactures
> CD's and
> > >> > prints the labels for them in batches as small as 300. the price
> for
> > >> > 300
> > >> > discs starts at $300."
> > >> >
> > >> > Unquote.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sounds like a pretty good profit margin to me even allowing for
> other
> > >> > overhead. Maybe the cases?  Of course if your band can't sell 300
> > >> > copies,
> > >> > it is still not a bargain,  but seriously I am curious if it can
> be
> > >> > done
> > >> > that cheap? Of course they do NO recording themselves. As the
> article
> > >> > says
> > >> > the source may be from as pricy a studio as one in Sweden to a
> home
> > >> > computer in the basement and sent to them.
> > >> >
> > >> > I am only posting this because in the past other list members
> have
> > >> > complained that certain things that are common knowledge  to
> most list
> > >> > members, has never trickled down to them!  In the unlikely event
> you
> > >> > did
> > >> > not know of this company, you do now.  Get your orders in for
> those
> > >> > Christmas CD's now.  If nothing else, some of you must have at
> least
> > >> > 300
> > >> > relatives or friends you can give them to as cheap gifts. They
> will
> > >> > never
> > >> > know.
> > >> >
> > >> > Lowell
> > >> >
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