[Dixielandjazz] school music thread
tcashwigg at aol.com
tcashwigg at aol.com
Fri Oct 21 22:34:21 PDT 2005
What is even more of a Crime is that they are taking these half assed
kids and their assed teachers on those trips purporting to be promoting
Jazz and American Culture to foreign countries. If they are teaching
them that that is Jazz we might as well bury it now and call me to play
I know of where I speak because one of my Trombone players is the head
of the music department at a major High school here in the Bay area and
goes on a trip with his high school band every summer disrupting our
professional tour, and he won't even bring one of those kids top a
rehearsal with us or invite them into an intern program. Which speaks
of the quality of musicianship that the schools are turning out. I
have actually just been approached by one of his former students who
wants to try out for a position with our band. Did he ever mention
the kid no not once. I am going to give the young kid a shot, maybe
just maybe he can play and I can take him on the road and teach him
what his teacher could not or would not or was prohibited to teach him.
I can't believe that out of all those kids coming out of schools that
there are not some of them with real genuine talent I know because I
was myself a product of that environment and worked my butt off to
overcome it all NOBODY ever taught me what I know about this business
in school. They also did not teach me very much about music either I
had to learn that on my own as well.
There is a lot of truth to the old adage of "Experience is the Best
Teacher" especially when it comes to Jazz.
But that is just my personal opinion and since it is given freely it is
probably worthless anyway.
From: Cebuisle2 at aol.com
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:36:22 EDT
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] school music thread
Hello list mates-
I've gone through all the posts on the subject of school music. Too
private replies, so I'll just add my two notes worth.
The observations , all of them, are correct.Band directors are
hampered by discipline problems. An undisciplined student should not
be part of
a school music organization. Or for that matter, a school sports team.
early jazz musicians who quit school to jazz did themselves and their
a big favor. Today however, quitting is a lot more difficult and
become holding pens for teenagers.
Most newer school band directors have had little or no jazz exposure.
many posts have pointed out, jazz can't be taught from a text. A local
at a school where I sub a lot answered my suggestion that his "jazz
a little hot jazz at the next concert to increase the small
that usually showed up. He replied that he had already played "String
at the last concert. This fellow supposedly majored in alto sax, but I
never seen him play the horn or even bring it to school during the last
years. Today he bemoaned the fact that in a school of over a thousand
he could not find a piano player for his "jazz band." His equipment
damaged, stolen or vandalized repeatedly over the years.
The impossible schedules some music people work under. Football games,
basketball games, annual parades, marching competitions, and on and on.
time left for jazz if even they wanted to. Mostly this is done by one
here in the South, no assistants.
And then,there is the poor choice (my feeling anyway) of material they
for concerts.Far out dissonant harmonies by New Age composers.
relate to them, kids can't play them well.
I could run on, but just wanted to say that the list knows the
What to do is a real nightmare in today's schools, and not just in the
And then, as one member pointed out, some of these folks really don't
to know the solutions.
And then there is there annual band trip. My grandkids go to China
years! The whole band year is spent raising money for these extravagant
tours so the director's resume will look good when he or she leaves.
time for music-
as always, tradjazz ted
oh yes-the last time they went to China they forgot to take the tuba
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