Maybe some will find this interesting. I haven't read it myself, the subject bores me to tears. Just trying to add some value. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/16/RVGUNF4DRE1.DTL Bob Williams Trombonist Extraordinaire and The Worlds's Most Modest Man mailto:slushpump1 at comcast.net